From: Ramiro Polla <ramiro.polla@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] ffbuild/commonmak: Fix rebuild check with implicit rule chains
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 21:36:06 +0200
Message-ID: <CALweWgAeGf8nLA4QejQ+z+YeY4sV5XybhPs=fK3fzG=MuoV3+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.80.v2.ffstaging.FFmpeg.1747549830700.ffmpegagent@gmail.com>
Hi,
On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 8:30 AM softworkz <ffmpegagent@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: softworkz <softworkz@hotmail.com>
>
> When there's a chain of implicit rules, make treats files generated
> inside that chain as intermediate files. Those intermediate files are
> removed after completion of make. When make is run again, it normally
> determines the need for a rebuild by comparing the timestamps of the
> original source file and the final output of the chain and if still
> up-to-date, it doesn't rebuild, even when the intermediate files are
> not present. That makes sense of course - why would it delete them
> otherwise, it would end up in builds being never up-to-date.
> But this original by-the-book logic appeared to be broken and has been
> worked around by adding all intermediate files to the .SECONDARY
> special target, which required extra logic and issues with make clean.
>
> What broke the up-to-date checking is the dependency file generation.
> For the .c files generated by BIN2C the compile target created a .d
> file which indicated that the .ptx.o file has a dependency on the
> ptx.c file. And that dependency broke the normal make behavior with
> intermediate files.
>
> This patch compiles the BIN2C generated .c files without generating
> .d files. In turn the files do not longer need to be added to the
> .SECONDARY target in common.mak.
>
> When interested in those files for debugging, a line can be added to
> the corresponding Makefile like
>
> .SECONDARY: %.ptx.c %.ptx.gz
>
> Signed-off-by: softworkz <softworkz@hotmail.com>
> ---
> ffbuild/commonmak: Fix rebuild check with implicit rule chains
>
> When there's a chain of implicit rules, make treats files generated
> inside that chain as intermediate files. Those intermediate files are
> removed after completion of make. When make is run again, it normally
> determines the need for a rebuild by comparing the timestamps of the
> original source file and the final output of the chain and if still
> up-to-date, it doesn't rebuild, even when the intermediate files are not
> present. That makes sense of course - why would it delete them
> otherwise, it would end up in builds being never up-to-date. But this
> original by-the-book logic appeared to be broken and has been worked
> around by adding all intermediate files to the .SECONDARY special
> target, which required extra logic and issues with make clean.
>
> What broke the up-to-date checking is the dependency file generation.
> For the .c files generated by BIN2C the compile target created a .d file
> which indicated that the .ptx.o file has a dependency on the ptx.c file.
> And that dependency broke the normal make behavior with intermediate
> files.
>
> This patch compiles the BIN2C generated .c files without generating .d
> files. In turn the files do not longer need to be added to the
> .SECONDARY target in common.mak.
>
> When interested in those files for debugging, a line can be added to the
> corresponding Makefile like
>
> .SECONDARY: %.ptx.c %.ptx.gz
>
>
> V2
> ==
>
> * Fix MSVC build
> (use the universal command pattern)
>
> Published-As: https://github.com/ffstaging/FFmpeg/releases/tag/pr-ffstaging-80%2Fsoftworkz%2Fsubmit_commonmak-v2
> Fetch-It-Via: git fetch https://github.com/ffstaging/FFmpeg pr-ffstaging-80/softworkz/submit_commonmak-v2
> Pull-Request: https://github.com/ffstaging/FFmpeg/pull/80
>
> Range-diff vs v1:
>
> 1: e276f54ffc ! 1: f468ea2431 ffbuild/commonmak: Fix rebuild check with implicit rule chains
> @@ ffbuild/common.mak: else
> endif
>
> +%.ptx.o: %.ptx.c
> -+ $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) -x c -c -o $@ $<
> ++ $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CC_C) $(CC_O) $(patsubst $(SRC_PATH)/%,$(SRC_LINK)/%,$<)
> +
> +
> # 1) Preprocess CSS to a minified version
> @@ ffbuild/common.mak: else # NO COMPRESSION
> endif
>
> +%.html.o: %.html.c
> -+ $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) -x c -c -o $@ $<
> ++ $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CC_C) $(CC_O) $(patsubst $(SRC_PATH)/%,$(SRC_LINK)/%,$<)
> +
> +%.css.o: %.css.c
> -+ $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) -x c -c -o $@ $<
> ++ $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CC_C) $(CC_O) $(patsubst $(SRC_PATH)/%,$(SRC_LINK)/%,$<)
> +
> +
> clean::
>
>
> ffbuild/common.mak | 15 ++++++++++++---
> 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/ffbuild/common.mak b/ffbuild/common.mak
> index 0e1eb1f62b..d9462271d5 100644
> --- a/ffbuild/common.mak
> +++ b/ffbuild/common.mak
> @@ -139,6 +139,10 @@ else
> $(BIN2C) $(patsubst $(SRC_PATH)/%,$(SRC_LINK)/%,$<) $@ $(subst .,_,$(basename $(notdir $@)))
> endif
>
> +%.ptx.o: %.ptx.c
> + $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CC_C) $(CC_O) $(patsubst $(SRC_PATH)/%,$(SRC_LINK)/%,$<)
> +
> +
> # 1) Preprocess CSS to a minified version
> %.css.min: %.css
> # Must start with a tab in the real Makefile
> @@ -177,6 +181,13 @@ else # NO COMPRESSION
> $(BIN2C) $< $@ $(subst .,_,$(basename $(notdir $@)))
> endif
>
> +%.html.o: %.html.c
> + $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CC_C) $(CC_O) $(patsubst $(SRC_PATH)/%,$(SRC_LINK)/%,$<)
> +
> +%.css.o: %.css.c
> + $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CC_C) $(CC_O) $(patsubst $(SRC_PATH)/%,$(SRC_LINK)/%,$<)
> +
I'm not a big fan of adding new targets with a stripped-down version
of the original rule. It seems like unnecessary duplication, and
increases the chance of divergence over time.
Instead, I think it's cleaner to use target-specific variables to
disable a part of the original rule. For example, in this case, you
would disable the dependency generation for just those targets, and
end up with something like this:
%.html.o: CC_DEPFLAGS =
%.css.o: CC_DEPFLAGS =
Ramiro
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-20 19:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-18 2:14 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] " softworkz
2025-05-18 6:30 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] " softworkz
2025-05-20 19:09 ` softworkz .
2025-05-20 19:36 ` Ramiro Polla [this message]
2025-05-20 19:46 ` softworkz .
2025-05-20 20:28 ` Ramiro Polla
2025-05-20 21:13 ` softworkz .
2025-05-20 21:51 ` softworkz .
2025-05-20 23:32 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3] " softworkz
2025-05-23 22:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4] " softworkz
2025-05-27 21:41 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 0/2] " ffmpegagent
2025-05-27 21:41 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 1/2] " softworkz
2025-05-27 21:41 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v5 2/2] ffbuild/commonmak: Consolidate pattern rules for compression softworkz
2025-06-17 16:01 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 0/2] ffbuild/commonmak: Fix rebuild check with implicit rule chains ffmpegagent
2025-06-17 16:01 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 1/2] " softworkz
2025-06-17 16:01 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 2/2] ffbuild/commonmak: Consolidate pattern rules for compression softworkz
2025-06-17 16:41 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 0/2] ffbuild/commonmak: Fix rebuild check with implicit rule chains softworkz .
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