From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AD647E5C for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 17:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B07E68D217; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:05:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail-pf1-f173.google.com (mail-pf1-f173.google.com [209.85.210.173]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4C7168D1D3 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:05:19 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail-pf1-f173.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-6dde65d585bso1352141b3a.0 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:05:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ob-encoder-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1706547917; x=1707152717; darn=ffmpeg.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=CbOEX2QYlsxj7Ln2Q1zDPgFCgXE05pIhOqmL3wJSK00=; b=SDuPNeFkxXMzmsD3wVVO5snwQ7T783/FWOqXOWWo+1AeJ3Zs3UVB7N86pRtqQjoajV v8CLoZ5srIeCSVGt4j6UadpIGNYr24qOwPr+3QeABBZnMu46gIGwuSwliFhSblCGy0Hg cX31jdVmjk8bRsTpjHE5NLjmtqpAVEo/xFN/afKRYJJH473eTRYC9CzmfP98Of7EnfG/ PusbjIwsdlGXafhBnBvsZTf66V9IcD1yHfLCFVRa9RIFXyLgL1u6iACykxC5Nrml/QoT alLkOUZSPueJjaOdcM5JcWmZ8MKPhhw0lQfpo+Fpz3MLHLI3ane5aBv1y1B15OtcEeI+ vJCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1706547917; x=1707152717; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=CbOEX2QYlsxj7Ln2Q1zDPgFCgXE05pIhOqmL3wJSK00=; b=d/2bY7QVbJabquEi4qDVzBEb1bJWelXFciFPFPSJIvXCrIgBn1qwcRjox+GhZblGiU 1GPSt9dvlw1tUhVKhint5BDcgbcmW2r4i87DU5teFGR+78RT8k7N+Xku58+blunfpeVM Zn/k3bBXdEe/X0y7vdujJHmscL4I3GXwtlBCZ+x3VAck95/GQaJAdU1MKLvx53ILDxLm WodQVsu/hx650wuQAIwc035UUsMvCshdlACix1AoWeH/qBx1I8na/2ySxQnHjIvT3sqq mObsHVQ1TQyyS7mlvaXfA03wdrwfOcklVZsHD23CgbIKmdasAR0XYjo2HV/7dgSnStQC imhQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzaZ52PAauxE/a6D6fTAcIN9v+agk6iwRJUXwzL9el4gRdXQGAz pQw5Qps3CrzrYMusxKqGNsQY88D+jFzCt1TOOwJBY83UNS9EkTAPMJ+4yJpgXInUZm/SKdamd0S gLcHg6P0OCJ/T+azHzRZHeQSRpSYk4cO36ovHKA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH9W6MKOLsIw5HvU5kCeQHz5BwpAbZvkwczI9a7C9+GLOrxrO8rzM87P2X6Xa3HNOPMvYB3c32lOLS8h6PYBms= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:9389:b0:6d9:b588:2053 with SMTP id ka9-20020a056a00938900b006d9b5882053mr3157932pfb.2.1706547917597; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:05:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240128032549.GN6420@pb2> <20240128171233.GO6420@pb2> <20240128200620.GP6420@pb2> <20240128213459.GR6420@pb2> In-Reply-To: From: Kieran Kunhya Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 17:05:08 +0000 Message-ID: To: "Jonatas L. Nogueira" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: Kieran Kunhya , FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: > This is also why there's no need to review the invoices, and no risk of a > legitimate invoice being rejected: Because the deliverable will likely be > the commit (unless the GA objects beforehand and asks SPI to use something > else), so until it (the MR/PR) is accepted, there's no invoice to start > with. And as STF is footing the bill, there's no reason to FFmpeg concern > itself if it turned out expensive or not when reviewing, and can focus in > actually improving the program (SPI and STF will place some budget limits, > so contributors/contractors know what to expect and the money won't run > out). > Of course we need to be concerned about this, FFmpeg isn't a think tank for people's fun developments with public money from STF. The same applies to donated funds, we have a responsibility as a community to spend the money for community purposes. You're not doing SPI any favours here with these comments. Kieran On Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 12:02 Kieran Kunhya wrote: > >> >>> >> [...] the GA definitly cannot object to an invoice for a project that >>> the GA approved previously. >>> > "The General Assembly is sovereign and legitimate for all its >>> decisions regarding the FFmpeg project." >>> >>> When working with a contract (and a SOW), the General Assembly won't be >>> able to block an invoice. >>> Because the General Assembly will already have exercised its sovereignty >>> before the work started. >>> And unless the GA becomes a nation, any court of law would uphold the >>> contract. >>> >> >> In this project, acceptance of a patch is based on the technical contents >> of a patch, not a few vague paragraphs in a SoW. These decisions are made >> by the Technical Committee and the General Assembly. >> >> Tying the project contractually is unacceptable. >> >> There are plenty of "corporate" open source projects where this is fine, >> but there is a reason we are not one of those full of corporate friendly >> code like binary blobs, intrinsics, SDKs etc. >> >> Kieran >> >>> _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".