From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F1074F9C5 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 05:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C157568C4C1; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:24:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f41.google.com (mail-ej1-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D236268C30B for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:24:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f41.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ade58ef47c0so996801366b.1 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:24:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1750742674; x=1751347474; darn=ffmpeg.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=DD+j6g5QV5S+ascE1SgsmgCfSN3JmQcz4eIa3wQ5kX0=; b=Y/KyaAY2o2Xs4ylXToyAwkJT37obMem8CM60PoNcAPByeSEEsLTmu5M/LrSNZY2PFL 2EVIX7IaxlsRU7agAr5T/i6F3uDn/3CdmbBy56fB9XbFNqgItX9u9BYZCIqTVfdPc71o 1PQKM26VT9eRYnQ8jdlwU4PTSkZbRNmnTo4kySasxjXwAmwbC9Sa0LqDsRJYVxCul/NL YP+zc2YRdCCUhKOxgxz1/DQbPDtEkTutrAENWy7Nr00I+uGScbcmVNN3PCs8Ok4VJeln uhuEz1MNFIQ+nFSM+lx50s0bxN5JgeWtLsjBqUerbRDOBiJrQYKNZ7t/+AO78ozNp/dN vmUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1750742674; x=1751347474; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=DD+j6g5QV5S+ascE1SgsmgCfSN3JmQcz4eIa3wQ5kX0=; b=N9BYPAJGHJ/dQXIhdOfXXKDMFTi4Vl2875fEGtZAGG9aS5tvC136pZY6HQamc2m84i TBpR2pWCqovBcSrDIK0DHMUxQuDdF0Pmg0PW7DjhGF1BMDHzMAOH5qzmO9oN1H15OScb jc4achaBsM3HTxJeICIUEvGZLQLW4nI2lERjcQtNKJov9sOa2U1j6GaQa/h0/pmeXIR2 zK5CmIJDuYtzxCoEieAu9y0G9o6O6Tzpj1N1v4iLahAtE6OatSICVTFjBPPAkr4FdbqY 5+zM4A3R1kaSzdRkdJdmhDQ0Niop9sQqh9cwITLcBEe8RWUc/z1wgcB9TzRZ1eWuurMC K2FQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz6hrdvnGafTuJ3mJvBmwWWZaW5B8OEVsZdAz/f/u1a9cbwkwyP dyabAXExF8uv2lB3SEGXDplutCUwR+IektvmbSNR8E5Gw9snkTup3PM8EetygKRPaWvFnoEEzb7 h12+f3XplqNIhsBigQShl5FkC5yPSW6f51qdk2nxCnnp9l/Ol5A== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncu33XMjowsDJ624s6jFJWc4npMcxevG4pnHK5+NMpmqx4gHVZIty5M9WGbOhTY ZlSDwu+HGY6+AyfVV7OU5LkhOiyI6kno2ipxsIETwxDKQc3dRuhz+BDEM67vBid2s/CGf3VQYVl X2Zu0N9DRD2Wk7gy+KWAjuFwpGXqMTmxYTtk7yhzovq5g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGXcf4mwHUTVntz5IFQowKDd3iIJKHNFGp/e2ukfQ4wIOqy0lL2CS3hJFq5NJn5avRg0t0twrQUmJSgk+hZNKI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:f58c:b0:ade:4121:8d2d with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ae0a73f20c6mr197592766b.20.1750742673951; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:24:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a17:907:cf45:b0:ae0:aa6d:c320 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:24:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20250624011224.GQ29660@pb2> References: <20250623202056.46005-1-derek.buitenhuis@gmail.com> <20250624011224.GQ29660@pb2> From: Derek Buitenhuis Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 06:24:32 +0100 X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFu9HC546_EVs2RUce9Rwr1zqu6Wdp88B_AUNIEb-glYdgTwwT516T-W_9Q Message-ID: To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Revert "Add FUNDING.json" X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Hi, On Monday, June 23, 2025, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi Derek > > You said > "The only mails you'll see from me in the future are code or reviews." Perhaps I should have written "patches or reviews". Nice way of inserting a "fuck you", though. Appreciate it. > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 09:20:56PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > > This was pushed with outstanding reservations, > > there where 2 comments in one mail but no objection > The first was about SPI and taxes > The second was about the domain owner of avcodec.org Neither of which were replied to before pushing. > > with no positive > > affirmation or review from any other devs, > > The General Assembly was informed about the donation on the 9th june > and on the 18th about the solution with the json file > as well as my intend to implement this within 48h > that would be the 20th. i waited 3 more days both for members > of the GA as well as the public to comment Pushed without the standard "will push soon" then. > > and without a push noticed > > to say it was going to be pushed. > > All members of the GA knew i intended to move forward > with this. And they also knew that there was a deadline of june 27th > for this. So everyone knew it would be pushed if theres no objection > because they saw the deadline date They did? Conjecture at best. A closed decision making process at worst. Also the deadline is sus AF; a classic pressure tactic. > > Further, the wallet is controlled by a single individual, and not > > FFmpeg. > > The wallet belongs to the FFmpeg community. And its content, if it ever > has any content. Also belongs to FFmpeg. So who has access? Yeah. > It is currently managed by me. Which brings me tax complexities and work. > The wallet can be handed over to the SPI treassurer, if the SPI treassurer > accepts it. Did you consult SPI? > The community can also discuss other ways to manage this wallet, it is > the FFmpeg communities wallet after all. Should have, before. > > But the antagonizing and accusational tone of your mail is unacceptable. > Manging this wallet costs time, costs money, means responsibility. > Today alone i spend like 1-2 hours manually verifying the transaction WTF? 1-2 hr is insane. > to connect this thing to the drips network. > > reverting FUNDING.json will reduce trust by donators in FFmpeg. Long gone. FFmpeg is a laughing stock since long ago due to stuff like this. Furthed, why does the project need this so much as to rush it in? There ia tons of unspent money being sititng in SPI for years. I suspect youve already whined to CC, as its number 1 complaintant; that is fine. I have said my 2 cents. All I see here is someone applying their personal ideaology to the project, tbh. Cheers. > > thx > > [...] > -- > Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB > > Awnsering whenever a program halts or runs forever is > On a turing machine, in general impossible (turings halting problem). > On any real computer, always possible as a real computer has a finite > number > of states N, and will either halt in less than N cycles or never halt. > _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".