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From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
To: Osamu Watanabe <owatanab@es.takushoku-u.ac.jp>
Cc: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 1/3] avcodec/jpeg2000dec: Add support for CAP and CPF markers
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 14:11:33 -0700
Message-ID: <CAF_7JxDEWQMTLwG3CzHAOmM2TOhdLeCpM_ynMW6twnhj-dLOxQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3ad4134d4ff61f7460c37b9b411df4886e65851.camel@haerdin.se>

On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 1:04 AM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> wrote:
>
> tor 2024-07-25 klockan 17:06 -0700 skrev Pierre-Anthony Lemieux:
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 2:17 AM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> wrote:
> > >
> > > sön 2024-07-21 klockan 14:07 +0900 skrev Pierre-Anthony Lemieux:
> > > > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:12 PM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > tor 2024-07-18 klockan 23:10 +0900 skrev Pierre-Anthony
> > > > > Lemieux:
> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 10:33 PM Tomas Härdin
> > > > > > <git@haerdin.se>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > fre 2024-07-12 klockan 12:51 -0700 skrev Pierre-Anthony
> > > > > > > Lemieux:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 10:28 PM Tomas Härdin
> > > > > > > > <git@haerdin.se>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +            if (s->in_tile_headers == 1 && s->isHT
> > > > > > > > > > &&
> > > > > > > > > > (!s-
> > > > > > > > > > > Ccap15_b11))
> > > > > > > > > > +                av_log(s->avctx, AV_LOG_WARNING,
> > > > > > > > > > "COD
> > > > > > > > > > marker
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > found in HOMOGENEOUS HT set\n");
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How bad is this and the other markers being present in
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > case?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At the very least, it means that signaling is
> > > > > > > > inconsistent
> > > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > codestream since the standard states that:
> > > > > > > > """
> > > > > > > > The HOMOGENEOUS set is the set of HTJ2K codestreams
> > > > > > > > where:
> > > > > > > > • none of the functional marker segments, e.g., COD, COC,
> > > > > > > > RGN,
> > > > > > > > QCD,
> > > > > > > > QCC, and POC, are present in any
> > > > > > > > tile-part header; and
> > > > > > > > • no PPT marker segment is present.
> > > > > > > > """
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The point of signalling that a codestream is
> > > > > > > > "HOMOGENEOUS" is
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > decoders to configure themselves solely based on
> > > > > > > > information
> > > > > > > > retrieved
> > > > > > > > entirely from the main header.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Since, AFAIK, FFMPEG does not rely on the HOMOGENEOUS to
> > > > > > > > short-
> > > > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > configuration, incorrect HOMOGENEOUS signalling will
> > > > > > > > likely
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > impact
> > > > > > > > FFMPEG.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It could happen that information in tile headers contradict
> > > > > > > information
> > > > > > > in the main header, right? In such a case it sounds like we
> > > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > sure which decode is the correct one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Per the spec, the decoder uses the COD information in tile-
> > > > > > parts
> > > > > > over
> > > > > > the COD information in the header.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The issue here is that a decoder, upon seeing HOMOGENEOUS,
> > > > > > simply
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > not bother with looking for COD information in tile-parts,
> > > > > > thereby
> > > > > > missing critical information.
> > > > >
> > > > > So it is actually perfectly legal? Then it seems this patch is
> > > > > wrong
> > > >
> > > > What is not "illegal": the HOMOGENEOUS flag being equal to true
> > > > *and*
> > > > having COD marker segments in tile-parts.
> > > >
> > > > This is what the patch detects.
> > > >
> > > > FFMPEG can decode such illegal codestream. Other decoders might
> > > > not.
> > > >
> > > > The question is: what should FFMPEG do? Should FFMPEG exit or
> > > > warn
> > > > and continue.
> > >
> > > If the spec allows it but it's perhaps unadviced then warning about
> > > it
> > > seems reasonable
> >
> > (I totally messed up my double negative. Repeat below. Sorry for the
> > confusion.)
> >
> > What is "illegal": the HOMOGENEOUS flag being equal to true *and*
> > having COD marker segments in tile-parts.
> >
> > This is what the patch detects.
> >
> > FFMPEG can decode such illegal codestream. Other decoders might not.
> >
> > The question is: what should FFMPEG do? Should FFMPEG exit or warn
> > and continue.
>
> Since it's illegal then we should complain and bail out. Users that
> *really* want it to keep going can change the code.

@Osamu Watanabe Can you update the patch to make FFMPEG exit when
encountering an illegal codestream, even if FFMPEG can theoretically
decode it?

>
> /Tomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-26 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-24 13:37 Osamu Watanabe
2024-06-24 13:37 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 2/3] avcodec/jpeg2000dec: Add support for placeholder passes Osamu Watanabe
2024-06-24 13:37 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 3/3] avcodec/jpeg2000dec: Fix HT decoding Osamu Watanabe
2024-07-12  4:57 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 1/3] avcodec/jpeg2000dec: Add support for CAP and CPF markers Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-13 10:31   ` WATANABE Osamu
2024-07-12  5:27 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-12 19:51   ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-15 13:32     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-18 14:10       ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-20  8:12         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-21  5:07           ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-25  9:16             ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-26  0:06               ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-26  8:04                 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-26 21:11                   ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux [this message]
2024-07-29  7:46                     ` WATANABE Osamu
2024-07-26 21:29                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-26 21:32                   ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-30 20:22                   ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-30 21:39                     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-08-01  1:58                       ` WATANABE Osamu
2024-08-01  2:40                         ` WATANABE Osamu

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