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From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] avformat/dashdec: fail on probing non mpd file extension
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 10:34:25 -0700
Message-ID: <CAF_7JxBMJ3WAy+XOuKfPF7LtPekgA3-5qrT90CV9Mi0kohMPqA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230508171052.GT1391451@pb2>

On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 10:11 AM Michael Niedermayer
<michael@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 04:05:40PM +0200, Tobias Rapp wrote:
> > On 08/05/2023 14:00, James Almer wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/6/2023 10:25 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > Its unexpected that a .avi or other "standard" file turns into a
> > > > playlist.
> > > > The goal of this patch is to avoid this unexpected behavior and possible
> > > > privacy or security differences.
> > > >
> > > > This is similar to the same change to hls
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
> > > > ---
> > > >   libavformat/dashdec.c | 11 +++++++----
> > > >   1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/libavformat/dashdec.c b/libavformat/dashdec.c
> > > > index 29d4680c68..294e14150d 100644
> > > > --- a/libavformat/dashdec.c
> > > > +++ b/libavformat/dashdec.c
> > > > @@ -2336,10 +2336,13 @@ static int dash_probe(const AVProbeData *p)
> > > >           av_stristr(p->buf, "dash:profile:isoff-live:2011") ||
> > > >           av_stristr(p->buf, "dash:profile:isoff-live:2012") ||
> > > >           av_stristr(p->buf, "dash:profile:isoff-main:2011") ||
> > > > -        av_stristr(p->buf, "3GPP:PSS:profile:DASH1")) {
> > > > -        return AVPROBE_SCORE_MAX;
> > > > -    }
> > > > -    if (av_stristr(p->buf, "dash:profile")) {
> > > > +        av_stristr(p->buf, "3GPP:PSS:profile:DASH1") ||
> > > > +        av_stristr(p->buf, "dash:profile")) {
> > > > +        if (!av_match_ext(p->filename, "mpd")) {
> > > > +            av_log(NULL, AV_LOG_ERROR, "Not detecting dash with non
> > > > standard extension\n");
> > > > +            return 0;
> > > > +        }
> > > > +
> > > >           return AVPROBE_SCORE_MAX;
> > > >       }
> > >
> > > Failing because it didn't match an extensions sort of goes against the
> > > point of probing, which even has a low score return value that's
> > > basically "it matched extension" as a sort of last resort.
>
> True
>
>
> > >
> > > I'd say wrap this in a FF_COMPLIANCE_STRICT check (since i assume the
> > > spec does state mpd must be the extension), but i think we have no
> > > access to the AVFormatContext here?
>
> Thats not what this was intended to do.
>
> The whole idea is more like a user clicking on a readme.txt and not
> expecting that to downloade a list of URLs in it because it happens to be a
> valid list or URLs

That presumes that "readme.txt":

(a) is detected as a playlist
(b) is a valid XML file (in the case of IMF or dash playlists)
(c) is structured to be interpreted as a playlist by the demuxer

This is unlikely to happen with a random "readme.txt". It sounds like
we are specifically trying to protect against a maliciously-crafted
"readme.txt".

If so, could enforcing, by default, same origin mitigate risks?


>
> The problem here is the information available to the user suggests one thing
> but the action of the user of opening this file does something different, something
> unexpected
>
> Thats not an issue if the difference is between 2 of 1000 similar formats
> but If the user believes the format cannot open random local and remote
> URLs but is just a single monolithic file and then when she clicks it
> does open other things without the user even ever knowing. That is not
> ideal.
>
>
> >
> > DASH is usually transferred over HTTP where file extensions are of minor
> > interest, the relevant type information is in the Mime-Type header.
>
> yes, true
>
>
> >
> > I think we already have the "format_whitelist" API for applications that
> > want to restrict the list of formats when loading a file from untrusted
> > sources?
>
>
>
> [...]
> --
> Michael     GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB
>
> It is what and why we do it that matters, not just one of them.
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-08 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-06 13:25 Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-06 13:25 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/3] avformat/imfdec: fail on probing non xml " Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-06 18:01   ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2023-05-07 19:18     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-08  5:09       ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2023-05-08 18:23         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-08 18:40           ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2023-05-08 22:01             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-08 22:13               ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2023-05-06 13:25 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/3] avformat/mpeg: Fix filename extension check for subtitle file Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-07 20:41 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] avformat/dashdec: fail on probing non mpd file extension Anton Khirnov
2023-05-08 12:00 ` James Almer
2023-05-08 14:05   ` Tobias Rapp
2023-05-08 14:38     ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2023-05-08 17:10     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-08 17:34       ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux [this message]
2023-05-08 22:35     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-09  6:19       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-05-09  7:35         ` Tobias Rapp
2023-05-09 20:02           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-09 20:44         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-10  6:44           ` Tobias Rapp
2023-05-10 14:01             ` Michael Niedermayer

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