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From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 1/3] avcodec/jpeg2000dec: Add support for CAP and CPF markers
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 17:06:04 -0700
Message-ID: <CAF_7JxA3fHtOEE7YqFNzYbFx9E7bxWXwqLhqai88u-WASw3VEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11253e56e46ef9a19aeae96dab092a1b235e3e69.camel@haerdin.se>

On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 2:17 AM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> wrote:
>
> sön 2024-07-21 klockan 14:07 +0900 skrev Pierre-Anthony Lemieux:
> > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:12 PM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> wrote:
> > >
> > > tor 2024-07-18 klockan 23:10 +0900 skrev Pierre-Anthony Lemieux:
> > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 10:33 PM Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > fre 2024-07-12 klockan 12:51 -0700 skrev Pierre-Anthony
> > > > > Lemieux:
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 10:28 PM Tomas Härdin
> > > > > > <git@haerdin.se>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +            if (s->in_tile_headers == 1 && s->isHT &&
> > > > > > > > (!s-
> > > > > > > > > Ccap15_b11))
> > > > > > > > +                av_log(s->avctx, AV_LOG_WARNING, "COD
> > > > > > > > marker
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > found in HOMOGENEOUS HT set\n");
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How bad is this and the other markers being present in this
> > > > > > > case?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At the very least, it means that signaling is inconsistent
> > > > > > within
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > codestream since the standard states that:
> > > > > > """
> > > > > > The HOMOGENEOUS set is the set of HTJ2K codestreams where:
> > > > > > • none of the functional marker segments, e.g., COD, COC,
> > > > > > RGN,
> > > > > > QCD,
> > > > > > QCC, and POC, are present in any
> > > > > > tile-part header; and
> > > > > > • no PPT marker segment is present.
> > > > > > """
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The point of signalling that a codestream is "HOMOGENEOUS" is
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > allow
> > > > > > decoders to configure themselves solely based on information
> > > > > > retrieved
> > > > > > entirely from the main header.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since, AFAIK, FFMPEG does not rely on the HOMOGENEOUS to
> > > > > > short-
> > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > configuration, incorrect HOMOGENEOUS signalling will likely
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > impact
> > > > > > FFMPEG.
> > > > >
> > > > > It could happen that information in tile headers contradict
> > > > > information
> > > > > in the main header, right? In such a case it sounds like we
> > > > > can't
> > > > > be
> > > > > sure which decode is the correct one.
> > > >
> > > > Per the spec, the decoder uses the COD information in tile-parts
> > > > over
> > > > the COD information in the header.
> > > >
> > > > The issue here is that a decoder, upon seeing HOMOGENEOUS, simply
> > > > does
> > > > not bother with looking for COD information in tile-parts,
> > > > thereby
> > > > missing critical information.
> > >
> > > So it is actually perfectly legal? Then it seems this patch is
> > > wrong
> >
> > What is not "illegal": the HOMOGENEOUS flag being equal to true *and*
> > having COD marker segments in tile-parts.
> >
> > This is what the patch detects.
> >
> > FFMPEG can decode such illegal codestream. Other decoders might not.
> >
> > The question is: what should FFMPEG do? Should FFMPEG exit or warn
> > and continue.
>
> If the spec allows it but it's perhaps unadviced then warning about it
> seems reasonable

(I totally messed up my double negative. Repeat below. Sorry for the confusion.)

What is "illegal": the HOMOGENEOUS flag being equal to true *and*
having COD marker segments in tile-parts.

This is what the patch detects.

FFMPEG can decode such illegal codestream. Other decoders might not.

The question is: what should FFMPEG do? Should FFMPEG exit or warn and continue.

>
> /Tomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-26  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-24 13:37 Osamu Watanabe
2024-06-24 13:37 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 2/3] avcodec/jpeg2000dec: Add support for placeholder passes Osamu Watanabe
2024-06-24 13:37 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 3/3] avcodec/jpeg2000dec: Fix HT decoding Osamu Watanabe
2024-07-12  4:57 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v4 1/3] avcodec/jpeg2000dec: Add support for CAP and CPF markers Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-13 10:31   ` WATANABE Osamu
2024-07-12  5:27 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-12 19:51   ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-15 13:32     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-18 14:10       ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-20  8:12         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-21  5:07           ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-25  9:16             ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-26  0:06               ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux [this message]
2024-07-26  8:04                 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-26 21:11                   ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-29  7:46                     ` WATANABE Osamu
2024-07-26 21:29                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-26 21:32                   ` Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
2024-07-30 20:22                   ` Tomas Härdin
2024-07-30 21:39                     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-08-01  1:58                       ` WATANABE Osamu
2024-08-01  2:40                         ` WATANABE Osamu

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