[FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Thilo Borgmann]

Hi,

as we figured during the last dev meeting on December 2nd we want to apply again for GSoC 2023.

I told mentors often enough already that it's a vital point in our applications to have a properly filled results page from the last GSoC we did.
Last time no mentor cared about this - we can be quite sure that our application will fail if we don't have [1] up-to-date until we send our application.

Also vital for the application are already existing project ideas so everyone interested in mentoring a project in 2023, please add your idea(s) to [2].

The application deadline is January 23rd, I will aim for sending an application mid January.

Thanks,
Thilo

[1] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2022/Results
[2] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2023
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Hello,

Also, please don’t copy paste ideas from previous years. If the idea did not get picked up for years, it won’t be more useful this year.

jb

On Thu, 15 Dec 2022, at 15:42, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> as we figured during the last dev meeting on December 2nd we want to 
> apply again for GSoC 2023.
>
> I told mentors often enough already that it's a vital point in our 
> applications to have a properly filled results page from the last GSoC 
> we did.
> Last time no mentor cared about this - we can be quite sure that our 
> application will fail if we don't have [1] up-to-date until we send our 
> application.
>
> Also vital for the application are already existing project ideas so 
> everyone interested in mentoring a project in 2023, please add your 
> idea(s) to [2].
>
> The application deadline is January 23rd, I will aim for sending an 
> application mid January.
>
> Thanks,
> Thilo
>
> [1] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2022/Results
> [2] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2023
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Pierre-Anthony Lemieux]

I have updated the page with the HTJ2K project.

This is a good opportunity to ask for help completing the review of
the patchset:

https://patchwork.ffmpeg.org/project/ffmpeg/list/?series=8078

All known issues have been resolved and it would be good to merge
soon, i.e. beat the iron while it is hot.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 6:47 AM Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Also, please don’t copy paste ideas from previous years. If the idea did not get picked up for years, it won’t be more useful this year.
>
> jb
>
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022, at 15:42, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > as we figured during the last dev meeting on December 2nd we want to
> > apply again for GSoC 2023.
> >
> > I told mentors often enough already that it's a vital point in our
> > applications to have a properly filled results page from the last GSoC
> > we did.
> > Last time no mentor cared about this - we can be quite sure that our
> > application will fail if we don't have [1] up-to-date until we send our
> > application.
> >
> > Also vital for the application are already existing project ideas so
> > everyone interested in mentoring a project in 2023, please add your
> > idea(s) to [2].
> >
> > The application deadline is January 23rd, I will aim for sending an
> > application mid January.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Thilo
> >
> > [1] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2022/Results
> > [2] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2023
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Thilo Borgmann]

Am 15.12.22 um 23:47 schrieb Pierre-Anthony Lemieux:
> I have updated the page with the HTJ2K project.

Cool, thanks!


> This is a good opportunity to ask for help completing the review of
> the patchset:
> 
> https://patchwork.ffmpeg.org/project/ffmpeg/list/?series=8078
> 
> All known issues have been resolved and it would be good to merge
> soon, i.e. beat the iron while it is hot.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 6:47 AM Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Also, please don’t copy paste ideas from previous years. If the idea did not get picked up for years, it won’t be more useful this year.
>>
>> jb

As if both of you wouldn't be aware that there shall be no top-posting here.......


-Thilo

>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022, at 15:42, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> as we figured during the last dev meeting on December 2nd we want to
>>> apply again for GSoC 2023.
>>>
>>> I told mentors often enough already that it's a vital point in our
>>> applications to have a properly filled results page from the last GSoC
>>> we did.
>>> Last time no mentor cared about this - we can be quite sure that our
>>> application will fail if we don't have [1] up-to-date until we send our
>>> application.
>>>
>>> Also vital for the application are already existing project ideas so
>>> everyone interested in mentoring a project in 2023, please add your
>>> idea(s) to [2].
>>>
>>> The application deadline is January 23rd, I will aim for sending an
>>> application mid January.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Thilo
>>>
>>> [1] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2022/Results
>>> [2] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2023
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Nuo Mi]

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:48 AM Thilo Borgmann <thilo.borgmann@mail.de>
wrote:

> Am 15.12.22 um 23:47 schrieb Pierre-Anthony Lemieux:
> > I have updated the page with the HTJ2K project.
>
> Cool, thanks!
>
>
> > This is a good opportunity to ask for help completing the review of
> > the patchset:
> >
> > https://patchwork.ffmpeg.org/project/ffmpeg/list/?series=8078
> >
> > All known issues have been resolved and it would be good to merge
> > soon, i.e. beat the iron while it is hot.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 6:47 AM Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Also, please don’t copy paste ideas from previous years. If the idea
> did not get picked up for years, it won’t be more useful this year.
> >>
> >> jb
>
> As if both of you wouldn't be aware that there shall be no top-posting
> here.......
>
>
> -Thilo
>
> >> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022, at 15:42, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> as we figured during the last dev meeting on December 2nd we want to
> >>> apply again for GSoC 2023.
> >>>
> >>> I told mentors often enough already that it's a vital point in our
> >>> applications to have a properly filled results page from the last GSoC
> >>> we did.
> >>> Last time no mentor cared about this - we can be quite sure that our
> >>> application will fail if we don't have [1] up-to-date until we send our
> >>> application.
> >>>
> >>> Also vital for the application are already existing project ideas so
> >>> everyone interested in mentoring a project in 2023, please add your
> >>> idea(s) to [2].
> >>>
> >>> The application deadline is January 23rd, I will aim for sending an
> >>> application mid January.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Thilo
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2022/Results
> >>> [2] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2023
> >>> _______________________________________________
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Hi Thilo, Ronald, Pierre, and all,
Is it finalized?  Any chance to add some items in
https://github.com/ffvvc/FFmpeg/issues to the GSOC 2023?

thank you
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Ronald S. Bultje]

Hi,

On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 4:20 AM Nuo Mi <nuomi2021@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it finalized?  Any chance to add some items in
> https://github.com/ffvvc/FFmpeg/issues to the GSOC 2023?
>

It all depends on the student. And baseline ffvvc needs to be in already
when the project starts. So it's not straightforward.

Are you proposing to be the student? Or what's your plan?

Ronald
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023, at 14:26, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> Are you proposing to be the student? Or what's your plan?

Be careful, GSoC is not only for students anymore.

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Nuo Mi]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 9:57 PM Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Jan 2023, at 14:26, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > Are you proposing to be the student? Or what's your plan?
>
> Be careful, GSoC is not only for students anymore.
>
You inspired me. Maybe I can create an open-source project. Mentor myself,
and get funding from gsoc every year.

>
> Best,
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Nuo Mi]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 9:27 PM Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 4:20 AM Nuo Mi <nuomi2021@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is it finalized?  Any chance to add some items in
> > https://github.com/ffvvc/FFmpeg/issues to the GSOC 2023?
> >
>
> It all depends on the student. And baseline ffvvc needs to be in already
> when the project starts. So it's not straightforward.
>
> Are you proposing to be the student? Or what's your plan?
>
I am not so young. :)
Just want to get more exposure and resources to prepare a decent version
upstream.


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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Thilo Borgmann]

Am 15.01.23 um 15:28 schrieb Nuo Mi:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 9:27 PM Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 4:20 AM Nuo Mi <nuomi2021@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it finalized?  Any chance to add some items in
>>> https://github.com/ffvvc/FFmpeg/issues to the GSOC 2023?
>>>
>>
>> It all depends on the student. And baseline ffvvc needs to be in already
>> when the project starts. So it's not straightforward.

Yet we are openand can add project proposals before the application deadline (Feb. 7th).
Do not wait until the last day, especially that having VVC yet in review does not make it easier to describe/define.
The project needs to extend the decoder, mere upstreaming should not be enough IIUC.
Also yes, it is highly preferable to have something upstream before project start end of Mai.


>> Are you proposing to be the student? Or what's your plan?
>>
> I am not so young. :)
> Just want to get more exposure and resources to prepare a decent version
> upstream.

Most importantly define a valid project and find a mentor with the time and abilities needed.
Having a (co-)mentor is also especially if you want to mentor it yourself.

-Thilo
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Nuo Mi]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 6:18 AM Thilo Borgmann <thilo.borgmann@mail.de>
wrote:

> Am 15.01.23 um 15:28 schrieb Nuo Mi:
> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 9:27 PM Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 4:20 AM Nuo Mi <nuomi2021@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is it finalized?  Any chance to add some items in
> >>> https://github.com/ffvvc/FFmpeg/issues to the GSOC 2023?
> >>>
> >>
> >> It all depends on the student. And baseline ffvvc needs to be in already
> >> when the project starts. So it's not straightforward.
>
> Yet we are openand can add project proposals before the application
> deadline (Feb. 7th).
> Do not wait until the last day, especially that having VVC yet in review
> does not make it easier to describe/define.
> The project needs to extend the decoder, mere upstreaming should not be
> enough IIUC.
> Also yes, it is highly preferable to have something upstream before
> project start end of Mai.
>
>
> >> Are you proposing to be the student? Or what's your plan?
> >>
> > I am not so young. :)
> > Just want to get more exposure and resources to prepare a decent version
> > upstream.
>
> Most importantly define a valid project and find a mentor with the time
> and abilities needed.
> Having a (co-)mentor is also especially if you want to mentor it yourself.
>
> -Thilo
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Hi Thilo and Ronald,
Thank you for the detailed information.
Seems too hurried for this time.  Maybe next time
Or everything is smooth, we do need GSOC 2024 for VVC decoder :)
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, at 14:53, Nuo Mi wrote:
> Seems too hurried for this time.  Maybe next time

I disagree: we can do (and should do) a small task for VVC dec in GSoC 2023, like a fringe feature, not from the mainline.

jb

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Nuo Mi]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 10:58 PM Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org>
wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, at 14:53, Nuo Mi wrote:
> > Seems too hurried for this time.  Maybe next time
>
> I disagree: we can do (and should do) a small task for VVC dec in GSoC
> 2023, like a fringe feature, not from the mainline.
>
Hi jb,
Thank you for the suggestion. I love this idea. Let me prepare the
description.


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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Nuo Mi]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:22 PM Nuo Mi <nuomi2021@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 10:58 PM Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, at 14:53, Nuo Mi wrote:
>> > Seems too hurried for this time.  Maybe next time
>>
>> I disagree: we can do (and should do) a small task for VVC dec in GSoC
>> 2023, like a fringe feature, not from the mainline.
>>
> Hi jb,
> Thank you for the suggestion. I love this idea. Let me prepare the
> description.
>
>
>>
>> jb
>>
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Hi jb, Thilo,
How about this?

Description: VVC is the successor to the well-known codec HEVC. The whole
video industry has high anticipation for  VVC. The goal of the ffvvc
project is to provide a VVC decoder for FFmpeg. We invite you to join us in
improving ffvvc. Depending on your background, you will help add
ALF/SAO/Predict assembly code or new features/tests for ffvvc.
Expected results: 500+ lines of code merged into the ffvvc project.

Prerequisites: Good C and Assembly code, basic familiarity with Git, and
knowledge of codecs.

Difficulty: Hard

Qualification Task: Fix any issue on https://github.com/ffvvc/FFmpeg/issues
or any patch merged by ffvvc.

Mentor: Nuo Mi (nuomi2021 at gmail dot com)

Duration: 350 hours

Hi All,
It's more than welcome if somebody can do the co-mentor.  Please reply to
this if you are interested.

Thank you.
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Thilo Borgmann]

Hi,

sorry for delay, some thoughts:

> Description: VVC is the successor to the well-known codec HEVC. The whole
> video industry has high anticipation for  VVC. The goal of the ffvvc
> project is to provide a VVC decoder for FFmpeg. We invite you to join us in> improving ffvvc. Depending on your background, you will help add
> ALF/SAO/Predict assembly code or new features/tests for ffvvc.
> Expected results: 500+ lines of code merged into the ffvvc project.

The "We invite you..." sentence seems out of... our evil strictly technical style.

I would avoid a background discussion and project definition talk with an interested student.
Better do offer two distinct project ideas, one for assembly opts and one for features/tests.
Possibly you could also split the testing into even a third project and make it the smallest project duration.
It might even be extended to add tests in general... just VVC as the first to do.

Also, we could only ask for one slot per project idea (which is meant to be taken by one individual).
Means if you got more than one interested & capable students, you could not accept more than one.


> Prerequisites: Good C and Assembly code, basic familiarity with Git, and
> knowledge of codecs.
> 
> Difficulty: Hard
> 
> Qualification Task: Fix any issue on https://github.com/ffvvc/FFmpeg/issues
> or any patch merged by ffvvc.
> 
> Mentor: Nuo Mi (nuomi2021 at gmail dot com)
> 
> Duration: 350 hours


> Hi All,
> It's more than welcome if somebody can do the co-mentor.  Please reply to
> this if you are interested.

This part will hardly be recognized by many, maybe sent another mail for that.
It might be faster to ask once or twice on ffmpeg-devel IRC.

For a testing project, you can add me as backup mentor.
For the opts & features I would prefer someone else to do it - although I will if nobody else can be found.

-Thilo
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Nuo Mi]

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:50 PM Thilo Borgmann <thilo.borgmann@mail.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> sorry for delay, some thoughts:
>
> > Description: VVC is the successor to the well-known codec HEVC. The whole
> > video industry has high anticipation for  VVC. The goal of the ffvvc
> > project is to provide a VVC decoder for FFmpeg. We invite you to join us
> in> improving ffvvc. Depending on your background, you will help add
> > ALF/SAO/Predict assembly code or new features/tests for ffvvc.
> > Expected results: 500+ lines of code merged into the ffvvc project.
>
> The "We invite you..." sentence seems out of... our evil strictly
> technical style.
>
> I would avoid a background discussion and project definition talk with an
> interested student.
> Better do offer two distinct project ideas, one for assembly opts and one
> for features/tests.
> Possibly you could also split the testing into even a third project and
> make it the smallest project duration.
> It might even be extended to add tests in general... just VVC as the first
> to do.
>
> Also, we could only ask for one slot per project idea (which is meant to
> be taken by one individual).
> Means if you got more than one interested & capable students, you could
> not accept more than one.
>
>
> > Prerequisites: Good C and Assembly code, basic familiarity with Git, and
> > knowledge of codecs.
> >
> > Difficulty: Hard
> >
> > Qualification Task: Fix any issue on
> https://github.com/ffvvc/FFmpeg/issues
> > or any patch merged by ffvvc.
> >
> > Mentor: Nuo Mi (nuomi2021 at gmail dot com)
> >
> > Duration: 350 hours
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > It's more than welcome if somebody can do the co-mentor.  Please reply to
> > this if you are interested.
>
> This part will hardly be recognized by many, maybe sent another mail for
> that.
> It might be faster to ask once or twice on ffmpeg-devel IRC.
>
> For a testing project, you can add me as backup mentor.
> For the opts & features I would prefer someone else to do it - although I
> will if nobody else can be found.
>
> -Thilo
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Hi Thilo,
No worries.Especially when you have so detailed suggestions
Updated on https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2023
Feel free to change it if something is not correct.

I ping IRC for backup mentors.

Thank you very much.
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] GSoC 2023

[Thilo Borgmann]

Hi,

Am 15.12.22 um 15:42 schrieb Thilo Borgmann:
[...]
> 
> The application deadline is January 23rd, I will aim for sending an application mid January.

> [1] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2022/Results
> [2] https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2023

we've been selected & announced to participate again!

Cheers,
Thilo


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