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From: Nuo Mi <nuomi2021@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
	<ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>, Frank Plowman <post@frankplowman.com>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] lavc/vvc: Error if SPS ID is duplicated within CVS
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 21:04:37 +0800
Message-ID: <CAFXK13d8kp4ARh0qFkJbO0_9+bRtTypc5a3OyANrw+aVgNOZuw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <171249217232.30127.8333600895527168051@lain.khirnov.net>

On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 8:16 PM Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net> wrote:

> Quoting Nuo Mi (2024-04-07 14:13:58)
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 2:15 PM Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Quoting Frank Plowman (2024-04-06 15:46:09)
> > > > Key line from the spec is:
> > > >
> > > > "All SPS NAL units with a particular value of
> sps_seq_parameter_set_id
> > > > in a CVS shall have the same content."
> > > >
> > > > Prior to this patch, the VVC decoder's behaviour on encountering a
> > > > duplicated SPS ID (within the entire bitstream, not restricted to
> > > > a CVS) was simply to replace the entry in the SPS lookup table with
> the
> > > > new data.  Illegal bitstreams with multiple SPSs in the same CVS
> sharing
> > > > an ID but differing elsewhere could cause all manner of issues.
> > > >
> > > > The patch tracks which SPS IDs have been used in the given CVS using
> the
> > > > new sps_id_used field of VVCParamSets.  If it encounters an SPS with
> an
> > > > ID already in use and whose content differs from the previous SPS, it
> > > > throws an AVERROR_INVALIDDATA.
> > >
> > > I wonder if it wouldn't be better to do what H264/HEVC do, which is
> > > replace the SPS, invalidate the PPSes that depend on the old one, and
> > > start a new CVS.
> > >
> > Consider two scenarios:
> > If the first SPS is incorrect, the entire CVS is undecodable because the
> > key frame is wrong, no matter what we do.
> > If the second SPS is incorrect, H.264/HEVC can't recover until the next
> CVS
> > because it replaces the correct SPS with the wrong one. However, the
> > current VVC logic allows for recovery in such cases.
> > Therefore, in the second case, the current logic may have benefits.
>
> Could the new SPS not signal the start of a new CVS?
>
Yes.
Take AUD_A_Broadcom_3.bit as an example, the nal order is

SPS
PPS
IDR_N_LP
TRAIL
MORE TRAILS...
SPS
PPS
CRA
TRAIL
MORE TRAILS...
SPS
PPS
IDR_N_LP

The SPS before CRA will not start a new CVS, unless you seek to the CRA.

>
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      reply	other threads:[~2024-04-07 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-06 13:46 Frank Plowman
2024-04-07  2:39 ` Nuo Mi
2024-04-07  6:15 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-07 12:13   ` Nuo Mi
2024-04-07 12:16     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-07 13:04       ` Nuo Mi [this message]

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