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From: "Ronald S. Bultje" <rsbultje@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] threadprogress: reorder instructions to silence tsan warning.
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 11:05:58 -0500
Message-ID: <CAEEMt2mnjdYzh=cpCiG6_rOuOYE2ZzQS_W-8fi1WsCDBs67YRg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tencent_D2337475C3491C2EAD65489307A85DF3E205@qq.com>

Hi,

On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:44 AM Zhao Zhili <
quinkblack-at-foxmail.com@ffmpeg.org> wrote:

> > On Feb 7, 2025, at 21:26, Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 6:22 AM Andreas Rheinhardt <
> > andreas.rheinhardt@outlook.com> wrote:
> >> Ronald S. Bultje:
> >>> Fixes #11456.
> >>> ---
> >>> libavcodec/threadprogress.c | 3 +--
> >>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/libavcodec/threadprogress.c b/libavcodec/threadprogress.c
> >>> index 62c4fd898b..aa72ff80e7 100644
> >>> --- a/libavcodec/threadprogress.c
> >>> +++ b/libavcodec/threadprogress.c
> >>> @@ -55,9 +55,8 @@ void ff_thread_progress_report(ThreadProgress *pro,
> >> int n)
> >>>     if (atomic_load_explicit(&pro->progress, memory_order_relaxed) >=
> n)
> >>>         return;
> >>>
> >>> -    atomic_store_explicit(&pro->progress, n, memory_order_release);
> >>> -
> >>>     ff_mutex_lock(&pro->progress_mutex);
> >>> +    atomic_store_explicit(&pro->progress, n, memory_order_release);
> >>>     ff_cond_broadcast(&pro->progress_cond);
> >>>     ff_mutex_unlock(&pro->progress_mutex);
> >>> }
> >>
> >> I don't really understand why this is supposed to fix a race; after all,
> >> the synchronisation of ff_thread_progress_(report|await) is not supposed
> >> to be provided by the mutex (which is avoided altogether in the fast
> >> path in ff_thread_report_await()), but by storing and loading the
> >> progress variable.
> >> That's also the reason why I moved this outside of the mutex (compared
> >> to ff_thread_report_progress(). (This way it is possible for a consumer
> >> thread to see the new progress value earlier and possibly avoid the
> >> mutex altogether.)
> >
> >
> > The consumer thread already checks the value without the lock. so the
> > significance of that last point seems minor to me. This would be
> different
> > if the wait() counterpart had no lockless path. Or am I missing
> something?
>
> What Andreas says is atomic_store before mutex_lock makes the first
> atomic_load in progress_wait has a higher chance to succeed. The earlier
> progress is set, the higher chance of progress_wait go into the fast path.


I understand that is true in theory - but I have doubts on whether this is
in any way significant in practice if wait() already has behaviour to
pre-empty locklessly

I measured this in the most un-scientific way possible by decoding
gizmo.webm (from Firefox' bug report) 10x before and after my patch, taking
the average and standard deviation, and comparing these with each other. I
repeated this a couple of times. The values (before vs after avg +/-
stddev) are obviously never exactly the same, but they swarm around each
other like a random noise generator. Or to say it differently: in my highly
unscientific test, I see no performance difference.

So ... Is this really worth it?

Ronald
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      reply	other threads:[~2025-02-07 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-06 21:42 Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-07  5:13 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 11:22 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-02-07 11:38   ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 11:47     ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-02-07 11:39   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-02-07 11:46     ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 11:53       ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 12:20         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-02-07 13:26   ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-07 13:43     ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 16:05       ` Ronald S. Bultje [this message]

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