From: "Ronald S. Bultje" <rsbultje@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] threadprogress: reorder instructions to silence tsan warning.
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:31:11 -0500
Message-ID: <CAEEMt2kNmwCo5Tcbs+JmOycrb=Y-3ytwGUur4euLd95XsP4RGw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tencent_504F3FB7566F9C2AE0125BC8357B80C03509@qq.com>
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 10:50 PM Zhao Zhili <
quinkblack-at-foxmail.com@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Feb 8, 2025, at 00:05, Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:44 AM Zhao Zhili <
> > quinkblack-at-foxmail.com@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> >
> >>> On Feb 7, 2025, at 21:26, Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 6:22 AM Andreas Rheinhardt <
> >>> andreas.rheinhardt@outlook.com> wrote:
> >>>> Ronald S. Bultje:
> >>>>> Fixes #11456.
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> libavcodec/threadprogress.c | 3 +--
> >>>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/libavcodec/threadprogress.c
> b/libavcodec/threadprogress.c
> >>>>> index 62c4fd898b..aa72ff80e7 100644
> >>>>> --- a/libavcodec/threadprogress.c
> >>>>> +++ b/libavcodec/threadprogress.c
> >>>>> @@ -55,9 +55,8 @@ void ff_thread_progress_report(ThreadProgress *pro,
> >>>> int n)
> >>>>> if (atomic_load_explicit(&pro->progress, memory_order_relaxed) >=
> >> n)
> >>>>> return;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - atomic_store_explicit(&pro->progress, n, memory_order_release);
> >>>>> -
> >>>>> ff_mutex_lock(&pro->progress_mutex);
> >>>>> + atomic_store_explicit(&pro->progress, n, memory_order_release);
> >>>>> ff_cond_broadcast(&pro->progress_cond);
> >>>>> ff_mutex_unlock(&pro->progress_mutex);
> >>>>> }
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't really understand why this is supposed to fix a race; after
> all,
> >>>> the synchronisation of ff_thread_progress_(report|await) is not
> supposed
> >>>> to be provided by the mutex (which is avoided altogether in the fast
> >>>> path in ff_thread_report_await()), but by storing and loading the
> >>>> progress variable.
> >>>> That's also the reason why I moved this outside of the mutex (compared
> >>>> to ff_thread_report_progress(). (This way it is possible for a
> consumer
> >>>> thread to see the new progress value earlier and possibly avoid the
> >>>> mutex altogether.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The consumer thread already checks the value without the lock. so the
> >>> significance of that last point seems minor to me. This would be
> >> different
> >>> if the wait() counterpart had no lockless path. Or am I missing
> >> something?
> >>
> >> What Andreas says is atomic_store before mutex_lock makes the first
> >> atomic_load in progress_wait has a higher chance to succeed. The earlier
> >> progress is set, the higher chance of progress_wait go into the fast
> path.
> >
> >
> > I understand that is true in theory - but I have doubts on whether this
> is
> > in any way significant in practice if wait() already has behaviour to
> > pre-empty locklessly
> >
> > I measured this in the most un-scientific way possible by decoding
> > gizmo.webm (from Firefox' bug report) 10x before and after my patch,
> taking
> > the average and standard deviation, and comparing these with each other.
> I
> > repeated this a couple of times. The values (before vs after avg +/-
> > stddev) are obviously never exactly the same, but they swarm around each
> > other like a random noise generator. Or to say it differently: in my
> highly
> > unscientific test, I see no performance difference.
> >
> > So ... Is this really worth it?
>
> I did another test by measure fast_path / (fast_path + slow_path) on macOS
> of hevc decoding with 10 threads.
>
> 1. Before the patch, it’s 99.741%.
> 2. With the patch, it’s 99.743%.
> 3. With while (atomic_load_explicit(&pro->progress, memory_order_acquire)
> < n), it’s 99.741%.
>
> So, it doesn’t matter for performance. Current patch is the most elegant
> solution in my opinion.
Thanks for testing. Andreas, any further thoughts?
Ronald
_______________________________________________
ffmpeg-devel mailing list
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email
ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-08 19:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-06 21:42 Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-07 5:13 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 11:22 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-02-07 11:38 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 11:47 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-02-07 11:39 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2025-02-07 11:46 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 11:53 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 12:20 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2025-02-07 13:26 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-07 13:43 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-07 16:05 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-08 3:50 ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-08 19:31 ` Ronald S. Bultje [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to='CAEEMt2kNmwCo5Tcbs+JmOycrb=Y-3ytwGUur4euLd95XsP4RGw@mail.gmail.com' \
--to=rsbultje@gmail.com \
--cc=ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Git Inbox Mirror of the ffmpeg-devel mailing list - see https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
This inbox may be cloned and mirrored by anyone:
git clone --mirror https://master.gitmailbox.com/ffmpegdev/0 ffmpegdev/git/0.git
# If you have public-inbox 1.1+ installed, you may
# initialize and index your mirror using the following commands:
public-inbox-init -V2 ffmpegdev ffmpegdev/ https://master.gitmailbox.com/ffmpegdev \
ffmpegdev@gitmailbox.com
public-inbox-index ffmpegdev
Example config snippet for mirrors.
AGPL code for this site: git clone https://public-inbox.org/public-inbox.git