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From: Martijn van Beurden <mvanb1@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] libavcodec/flacenc: Enable sample rates > 655350 Hz
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 17:14:26 +0100
Message-ID: <CADQbU68CYZQx0h5Noi7WiWtfJt9m8vsbNaAkmK=LSEzDmNzy6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADQbU6_uTazbL6HTaTQeO0G3bhnMm2OVpUtm+gzKTvNLHB6KDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Op ma 31 okt. 2022 om 19:33 schreef Martijn van Beurden <mvanb1@gmail.com>:
>
> Op ma 31 okt. 2022 om 17:58 schreef Derek Buitenhuis
> <derek.buitenhuis@gmail.com>:
> >
> > It is interesting that the IETF RFC and the Xiph spec disagree on whether this is allowed.
> >
>
> The Xiph spec also says the IETF spec is better, and it remains as
> historical reference and overview :)
>
> > The Xiph spec says:
> >
> >     Sample rate in Hz. Though 20 bits are available, the maximum sample rate is limited by the
> >     structure of frame headers to 655350Hz. Also, a value of 0 is invalid.
> >
> > The RFC just says:
> >
> >    Sample rate in Hz.
> >
>
> The spec as it is on the FLAC website (which is being "preserved") is
> wrong. I don't know how this came to be, I think it was at first
> poorly worded and later incorrectly fixed. See this commit:
> https://github.com/xiph/flac/commit/96534bb5f35eb9c2f6f393dc470625e9c74df1a5
> The text as it was before that commit doesn't make any sense, the text
> as it is after the commit is not correct either.
>
> The issue here is that FLAC has a sample rate in the streaminfo
> metadata block, at the very start of the file. That one can
> accommodate sample rates up to 2^20-1. The frame headers repeat the
> sample rate every frame and can only accommodate up to 655350Hz, but
> they can also reference the streaminfo metadata block. Because of the
> possibility to reference that 20 bit number, it is possible to store
> sample rates up to 1048575Hz. You can see this patch only touches the
> encoder: the FFmpeg decoder has already been equipped to deal with
> this since its inception in 2004.
>
> There is some kind of limitation to sample rates above 655350Hz, or
> samplerates between 65535Hz and 655350Hz that are not a multiple of 10
> though: a FLAC file with such a sample rate cannot be multicast,
> because a decoder receiving a multicast stream does not receive the
> streaminfo metadata block, and thus cannot use it to figure out the
> correct sample rate.
>
> Please let me know when this explanation falls short.
>
> Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden

Hi all,

With this email, I would like to renew the attention of the mailing
list for this patch.

Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-15 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-31 16:09 Martijn van Beurden
2022-10-31 16:58 ` Derek Buitenhuis
2022-10-31 18:33   ` Martijn van Beurden
2022-10-31 21:25     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2022-11-15 16:14     ` Martijn van Beurden [this message]
2022-11-15 21:56       ` Michael Niedermayer

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