From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E964A863 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C2F68D3DC; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 05:22:01 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail-yw1-f173.google.com (mail-yw1-f173.google.com [209.85.128.173]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68F0F68CF3F for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 05:21:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail-yw1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-617e42a3f94so3732747b3.2 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 19:21:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1713406912; x=1714011712; darn=ffmpeg.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EJ9+6tQ8vSryA3kROU0sfpXPhIR9ioOtpGTPbK7mK+o=; b=ZwtEeO6bgyJG9l5ubpQkvA/sy5T6KPAyjkVm6ZFLOT2HlbWvfwUq3Xy4ZlpvATeKq1 O/Fd03lBG9u7QvUKL8KM4XTkLeENNGZ3jzSH6d5NMfHhIia7bp1byunCS2BZnWZDMWPs IEmthmxbOohQJdPZzZU6itMKdy/oWimY8znDJohdKBzj4m9rA/iE0hFDQkv6Hd4aFavy 59RQSeTyfR+3USjxKh3H85SlTAp9biABD/a7JmXx7xzPKc09BmvfPjmmnxz3ZHXYL8u8 lRzNyi6jwMazN+ukWfCIwO/irFasKOSTzOBkyXlLBzMD7UNlXzpZdv51ASK0tOlzFVym bMhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713406912; x=1714011712; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EJ9+6tQ8vSryA3kROU0sfpXPhIR9ioOtpGTPbK7mK+o=; b=nrp/nSCtIyGJaAIUds+TE/BqEwHQoXznFSZ/fMWDH7ggXgF//1mrJ6eeQHtFvP4Pno 3jCVcka7mvEEjbeqQLN9nwAAI3xZxK+UykH6tWOYOM0yhoPgEtOYCsfWBp0ImfM+dobZ ECvzAJRZWtaPoZd/a6QtkmxgIM5zXQZt2Ogtrnno/nt5XoA/5ONf7ujyV3b3QR5s7lQW jzn0YNl+Oj5DyXowYUAN80zT4X6s3u8QJP6XyaThZ83wT4ln8LP2tcETw6zruo2K2QiI RFEDbwkOT0Td6erLq+EMRojkxRbczY0d4TrLRB60IM/Z/wgZGQ6bIo5sZnqvdocU9jvI QNsw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YymeO1Z2+kMbpJifqxAOl5MbnV1iM++B3uxSo9u+7I/H8b/pd5R yBin4fyx+gJom0pIhGbij7xx2QIP3HD068xquUF7fsd1jdInA6+BuoqV0Y74fd7uuB9/dyxmHuG ianJVwBvIeNo+hFGq8pBlzEkmNUytS92JOdE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHw5+Gv5iokvsYvhG/sr19qJLK1R3BCDdTggzAQPKRYgjE+zBoI/pOTgdCfpLXEAEBHNWHNnBr+lgKCWOl7qFk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:d0b:b0:61a:b7c8:ea05 with SMTP id cn11-20020a05690c0d0b00b0061ab7c8ea05mr1450260ywb.35.1713406911990; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 19:21:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240417135832.GJ6420@pb2> In-Reply-To: <20240417135832.GJ6420@pb2> From: Aidan Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 19:21:39 -0700 Message-ID: To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: The best option is to figure stuff out. I don't see positive stuff in this mailing list - I lurk a lot in these emails. I see what you mean. I somewhat disagree/agree. New codecs or new formats is innovative to a certain extent. There is no creativity or motivation here to improve the functionality of FFmpeg. Just arguing! Having a Native VVC decoder is great. Most of us will be using it after a few years once the codec becomes used. I use FFmpeg to download HLS streams from the internet or convert files like probably most people do. FFmpeg is the ultimate way of doing this because there is no better option. But there are issues: 1. "#ext-x-discontinuity" exists. Makes FFmpeg completely unable to function with HLS depending on the circumstance. 2. TTML is used a lot on the internet as subtitles. FFmpeg doesn't have a decoder at all. TTML is rarely supported other than browsers. There is no way to convert and preserve formatting. 3. There is no encoder for cea-608 subtitles. Tons of services support decoding but there's no way to encode it. 4. Services selling HLS encoder services. FFmpeg can generate an HLS playlist. However, it's an important part: the web server. I submitted a patch for a TTML decoder because I thought it would be great. It was completely ignored. If my patch was seriously bad, then fine. But seriously *no one cared*. Y'all can disagree with me. You are slowly digging a pit. Kind regards, Aidan / TheDaChicken _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".