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From: Romain Beauxis <romain.beauxis@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Query from Reuters on XZ, open source, and Microsoft
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 15:57:02 -0500
Message-ID: <CABWZ6ORy4wCnzjdGdJ=gqngxrtbudBid5Oh+MEAm-U5t44BFXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fda2247f925ebc03bdd46ed5086b2065e32e2458.camel@haerdin.se>

[Apologies for continuing the conversation, Rémi]

Le mar. 9 avr. 2024 à 14:05, Tomas Härdin <git@haerdin.se> a écrit :

> mån 2024-04-08 klockan 13:13 -0500 skrev Romain Beauxis:
> > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024, 11:39 Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel <
> > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Raphael,
> > >
> > > I was the author of the tweet and I gave a short talk about this
> > > topic at
> > > Demuxed at a video conference last year:
> > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OIyOEuQQsCQ&t=930s
> > >
> > > That said this is a community project and it would be best to
> > > continue the
> > > discussion on this mailing list unless agreed otherwise.
> > >
> >
> > Thank you for sharing your talk. It's indeed unfortunate that large
> > companies are not more generous with the projects they depend on
> > _heavily_
> >
> > I would like to offer a constructive feedback really not intended as
> > trolling. I believe that supporting a more modern development
> > workflow such
> > as the GitHub PR or gitlab MR would go very long way in helping
> > onboarding
> > new developers.
>
> Considering which company owns GitHub and which company was the target
> of Kieran's criticism, this seems ill-adviced
>

Would you mind explaining what you mean exactly? I want to respond but I'm
not sure if I fully understand your point here.


> Also as someone who had to maintain a Gitlab instance at uni for a
> couple of years, I agree with Rémi's points
>

My initial contribution was motivated by the argument presented in the
original talk that bringing new blood is critical to the survival of the
project.

If so, then I do believe that there must be a compromise to be made between
being easier to join for new developers and changing the existing workflow.
I'm also aware that changing the existing workflow has been discussed
before.

I don't think that media is not cool anymore, as argued in the talk. I see
a _lot_ of interested developers in my other projects and all over the open
source landscape. That's why I believe that it's also important to consider
other reasons than the talk's argument.

Being someone actually trying to contribute, with years of developers
experience and involvement in other communities, I was thinking that I may
be able to bring in more new context to the topic.

If there's interest in continuing the discussion, could you or Rémi be
willing to explain what kind of burden gitlab would add?

Also, Rémi said this would make it harder to join the project, in which way
exactly?

Otherwise, I'm happy to let this die and return to trying to get my patch
committed.. 🙂

Thanks,
-- Romain
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-09 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03 15:51 Satter, Raphael (Reuters) via ffmpeg-devel
2024-04-03 16:38 ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2024-04-03 16:42   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [EXT] " Satter, Raphael (Reuters) via ffmpeg-devel
2024-04-03 19:26   ` Satter, Raphael (Reuters) via ffmpeg-devel
2024-04-03 19:43     ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2024-04-08 11:02     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-08 14:40       ` Nicolas George
2024-04-08 17:56         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-09 19:08         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-17 19:05         ` [FFmpeg-devel] Mailinglist conduct (was: [EXT] Re: Query from Reuters on XZ, open source, and Microsoft) Ronald S. Bultje
2024-04-08 18:13   ` [FFmpeg-devel] Query from Reuters on XZ, open source, and Microsoft Romain Beauxis
2024-04-08 21:29     ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-04-09  3:09     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-04-09  8:36       ` Nicolas George
2024-04-10  9:27         ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-10 13:15           ` Gyan Doshi
2024-04-09 19:05     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-09 20:57       ` Romain Beauxis [this message]
2024-04-09 23:46         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-10  1:43           ` Romain Beauxis
2024-04-10 12:40           ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-04-10 11:38         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-11  1:19         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-11  3:59           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-04-11  7:27             ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-17 19:24             ` epirat07

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