Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization

[Vittorio Giovara <vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>]

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 10:36 PM Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:

> > Yes, obviously. That is exactly why I think that another fork is a likely
> > outcome at this point in time.
>
> Then the only viable strategy is to make sure the people who fork are
> the harmful ones.
>

So you're leaving? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out :)
(not an attack, just a joke to defuse the tension)

> This is a fallacious argument. From the point of view of the anti-Michael
> > faction, it is Michael's presence that is hurting the project the most.
> So you
> > could say the exact same thing about Michael's actions, with the same
> > circular justification.
>
> Once again: learn from history. The forkers drove their fork into the
> ground, Michael made the original branch strive.
>

Learn from history and let's not be revisionists. The forkers were happily
trying to strive on their own but Micheal merged everything in ffmpeg,
including often incomplete and unfinished work, which made the whole fork
war an arms or feature race that was unfair to compete on. Once again, he's
the consequence of his own actions, if he left the forkers be, we'd not be
in this situation, but that's beside the point.


> > This seems like a direct contradiction of reality. Michael has repeatedly
> > made it clear that the community should *not* be in charge.
>
> Michael, literally one hour ago: “Allow every contributor to have a
> vote, ensuring all voices are heard, regardless of their role or level
> of involvement.”
>

Which means any debate will result in a social network exercise and just
giving power to the de facto leader.
It's like saying that every single citizen should vote on every single law
proposed by parliament, it makes no sense!


> >                                                               It also
> goes
> > against what we established above, which is that people are leaving the
> > project precisely because it is *not* democratically run.
>
> This too is false, we established no such thing.
>

Will you stop spreading lies? This is literally what happened, and if you
don't believe me, feel free to ask the people involved directly.
It is a well established fact, and we're not going into "you said they
said" territory about this.
-- 
Vittorio
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