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From: Vittorio Giovara <vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 07:38:21 +0100
Message-ID: <CABLWnS_gMO7CngcFnNpF+tsOarp9VJnedGw_0_Z_E7aVZ0nbDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM8P223MB0365B166352FD9247EBEA900BAEE2@DM8P223MB0365.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 10:49 PM Soft Works <
softworkz-at-hotmail.com@ffmpeg.org> wrote:

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of Leo
> > Izen
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2025 10:39 PM
> > To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization work in progress draft v2
> >
> > On 1/29/25 3:33 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Heres my current "work in progress": (sending that before fosdem,
> > so people can discuss if they like)
> > >
> > > Goals:
> > >      The proposed changes aim to improve the General Assembly's
> > structure to ensure inclusivity, fairness, and resilience against
> > attacks. The key goals are as follows:
> > >      Increase the Size of the General Assembly
> > >          Inclusivity: Allow every contributor to have a vote,
> > ensuring all voices are heard, regardless of their role or level of
> > involvement.
> > >          Enhanced Security: By increasing the number of voters, it
> > becomes significantly harder for a malicious actor or group to
> > influence decisions. A larger voting pool dilutes the impact of any
> > single attack or coordinated effort.
> > >      Make Voting Power Proportional to Contributions
> > >          Fair Representation: Allocate voting power based on
> > contributions, ensuring that those who dedicate substantial time and
> > effort to the project have a stronger voice than those with minimal
> > involvement. This creates a system where contribution equals
> > influence.
> > >          Resilience Against Attacks: Attackers would need not only
> > a large number of people but also a comparable volume of meaningful
> > contributions to influence the vote, further safeguarding the
> > project.
> > >          Motivating Participation: Encouraging higher levels of
> > engagement by rewarding contributors with more influence in decision-
> > making.
> > >      Broaden the Definition of Contributions
> > >          Previously everyone was a software developer. But really
> > there are many people in the community, who are not software
> > developers.
> > >
> > >
> > > Shares in Alternative P
> > >      1 release                               == 100 shares
> > >      1 entry in MAINTAINERS                  == 100 shares
> > >      1 commit in           git master branch ==  10 shares
> > >      1 subscription in ffmpeg-devel          ==  10 shares
> > >      1 subscription in ffmpeg-user           ==  10 shares
> > >      1 fixed ticket in trac                  ==  10 shares
> > >      1 reported issue in trac                ==   2 shares
> > >      1 mail in ffmpeg-devel                  ==   2 shares
> > >      1 mail in ffmpeg-user                   ==   2 shares
> > >      1 (backported) commit in release branch ==   1 shares
> > >
> >
> > I have been silent on this for a very long time, but I would like to
> > point out at this point that Michael has approximately five times as
> > many commits as the next-most prolific contributor (Andreas).
> >
> > (for those curious, navigate to git master and run: git shortlog -s -
> > n)
> >
> > If you draft language that gives you five times as much voting power
> > as
> > anybody else it does not realistically make it appear as though you
> > are
> > interested in handing over reigns to anybody.
>
> Am I the only one who has read that (probably so far most important)
> message where Michael has clearly said that such "handing over reigns" (he
> said "keys") is not going to happen as - would it burn down to that -
> people should rather fork?
>
> I think it's important to be clear about that, as it might save a lot of
> wasted energy.
>

We should be all running Windows XP, and never have switched away from
Monarchy after the French revolution, it might have saved a lot of wasted
energy.
-- 
Vittorio
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-30  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-29 20:33 Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-29 21:39 ` Leo Izen
2025-01-29 21:47   ` Nicolas George
2025-01-29 21:48   ` Soft Works
2025-01-30  6:38     ` Vittorio Giovara [this message]
2025-01-29 23:43 ` Niklas Haas
2025-01-30 18:04   ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-01-31 14:36     ` Nicolas George
2025-01-31 14:58   ` Nicolas George
2025-01-31 15:44     ` James Almer
2025-01-31 16:01       ` Soft Works
2025-02-02  2:25         ` Leo Izen
2025-02-02  3:37           ` Soft Works
2025-02-02  7:29           ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01  0:49       ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01  6:45         ` Zhao Zhili
2025-02-01 13:21           ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-01 14:30             ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 14:11           ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2025-02-01 14:31             ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-02 11:34           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01 13:30         ` James Almer
2025-02-01 21:53           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-02 18:14             ` James Almer
2025-02-03 18:08               ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-03 18:16                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-03 19:14               ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-03 20:45                 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-03  2:29             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-02-01 22:27           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-02-01 22:29             ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-02-02 21:35             ` James Almer
2025-01-30  6:41 ` Vittorio Giovara
2025-02-01 20:44 ` Nicolas George
2025-02-02  0:01   ` Michael Niedermayer

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