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From: Vittorio Giovara <vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] YUVJ removal
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 11:15:46 -0400
Message-ID: <CABLWnS_2qh3QZjdW9Cwr0s6cABxac4ur5fV6zdFVrdRBmn3i+Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <NgiIxu7--B-9@lynne.ee>

On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 9:11 AM Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> wrote:

> Oct 14, 2023, 00:22 by vittorio.giovara@gmail.com:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 5:14 PM Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> wrote:
> >
> >> Oct 13, 2023, 20:33 by vittorio.giovara@gmail.com:
> >>
> >> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 10:27 AM Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Changes since v1:
> >> >>
> >> >> - Remove unneeded patch (AVCodecContext.colorspace init)
> >> >> - Merge auto-range conversion into auto-scale filter
> >> >> - Replace vf_zscale by vf_colorspace in fftools
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Why is this? I haven't checked what vf_colorspace supports in a hot
> >> second,
> >> > but iirc zscale can handle non linear spaces better and hdr conversion
> >> > If it's because it's a built in filter, do you think we could first
> check
> >> > for zscale presence and fallback to colorspace?
> >> >
> >>
> >> vf_colorspace != swscale
> >>
> >
> > I am aware, thanks, not sure why's related here
> >
> >
> >> Relying on external library for basic functionality that we have
> >> no control over, which may break its ABI or API at any moment,
> >> when we have a built-in one is a no.
> >> I wouldn't agree to having it optional in this case either. Users
> >> can explicitly request it as a filter and use it, which fits in better
> >> with its very explicit programming model too.
> >>
> >
> > except colorspace doesn't implement necessary features and conversions
> that
> > are present in zscale afair
> > if it's an automation to facilitate the life of a user it shouldn't come
> at
> > the cost of producing actual good results
> >
>
> colorspace doesn't make it impossible to introduce all that is needed.
> It's a cleaner codebase that we can extend.
>

* that only works on a subset of colorspaces.
Last time I checked, it would have required a massive lift to support
anything with constant luminance or the icpct formats.

As for HDR, I think anything but what libplacebo does is sufficient.
>

Right but it's also important to avoid reinventing the wheel. We could find
better solutions like having a library with different backends and bundle
them as needed.
-- 
Vittorio
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-14 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-13 14:24 Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 01/13] avfilter/vf_scale: don't change range by default Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 02/13] avcodec: add extended AVCodec color metadata Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 17:10   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-10-13 18:52     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-14 10:29     ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-14 11:46     ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-20 13:54       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-20 14:11         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-20 14:01     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-14 13:31   ` Leo Izen
2023-10-14 13:40     ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 03/13] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: auto-convert range if needed Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 04/13] lavfi/vf_colorspace: support prim/trc/csp passthrough Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 05/13] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: auto-insert colorspace filter Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 06/13] avcodec/encode: enforce AVCodec capabilities at encode time Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 07/13] tests/fate: force MPEG range for rawvideo tests Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 08/13] tests/fate: allow conversion filters in jpg-icc test Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 09/13] lavc: set color_ranges for YUVJ-only codecs Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 10/13] lavfi/lavu/lavc: remove YUVJ pixel formats Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 11/13] swscale/utils: simplify JPEG handling function Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 12/13] tests/fate: remove unused YUVJ ref files Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 13/13] avutil/pixdesc: remove old yuvj pixel format check Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 18:33 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] YUVJ removal Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-13 21:14   ` Lynne
2023-10-13 22:21     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-14 13:11       ` Lynne
2023-10-14 15:15         ` Vittorio Giovara [this message]
2023-10-14 15:18           ` Lynne
2023-10-20 12:14           ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-10-20 16:14             ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-20 23:13               ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-10-21 23:20                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-24  0:56                   ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-25 22:15                     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-20 11:30   ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-20 16:17     ` Vittorio Giovara

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