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From: Vittorio Giovara <vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] clarifying the TC conflict of interest rule
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 13:44:52 +0100
Message-ID: <CABLWnS9nDj6q5DtVo6aLBYhCSGvmkWXM3ei+9P0uTrWWAd+svg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240305025001.GA6420@pb2>

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 3:50 AM Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 10:45:02AM +0100, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 1:57 AM Michael Niedermayer <
> michael@niedermayer.cc>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 03:49:33AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > +If a TC member is aware of a conflict of interest with regards to
> the
> > > case, they must announce it
> > > > +and recuse themselves from the TC discussion and vote.
> > >
> > > please replace this in my proposal by this (as it clearer states what
> the
> > > intend is)
> > >
> > > > * If a TC member is aware of being in a conflict of interest with
> > > regards to the case, they must announce it
> > > > and recuse themselves from the TC discussion and vote.
> > >
> > > (also as you can see we have active discussions here, the vote is IMHO
> > >  premature)
> > >
> >
> > we literally had premature voting for STF, despite multiple discussions
> > taking place during the time
>
> The STF opertunity had a deadline.
>

a deadline that you were aware of for months, and dumped on the community
saying "we only have 2 weeks to decide" and *while we were discussing the
options* you single handedly started a vote


> Also we can already start discussing what shall be done when the next grant
> opertunity comes. I dont know if we will be accepted, so its possible
> 1. that if we are rejected that we will hear of that narrowly before the
> next deadline.
> 2. there is always the chance for more opertunities, we should be ready
> to know what we want next time
>

We are NOT discussing this topic in this thread, please stop trying to
derail the conversation


> > I don't see how a parallel thread here should stop the proposed vote now
> > please let's stop filibustering and just move on to voting
>
> voting on what ?
>

On the list of options that Anton is preparing


> Iam not blocking the vote btw, i suggested several options for it.
> What i think is that a real discussion would make sense before the vote
> if no such discussion happens and the vote moves forward with all options
> then that will work out too i guess.
>

Including expanding the GA, sending separate patches, and now mentioning
funding in this very response
I love the chaos as much as anybody but we need to be practical at a
certain point.

Either add an option to the proposed list of options or let's move to
voting.
-- 
Vittorio
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-05 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-20  8:22 Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20  8:50 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20  9:12   ` Marton Balint
2024-02-20  9:21     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 19:32       ` Marton Balint
2024-02-22 21:34         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 10:01   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-20 11:09     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-22  6:50       ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-22 21:21         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23  7:56           ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 10:56             ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-23 14:18               ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 14:52               ` Zhao Zhili
2024-02-23 16:05                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 19:36             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 16:33               ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 18:12                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 19:17                   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 19:48                     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 20:02                       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 20:30                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-26 20:44               ` Nicolas George
2024-02-20 20:50   ` Niklas Haas
2024-02-22 21:14     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 23:27       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-24 11:05         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-02-26 16:52         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 22:47           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-27  7:20             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-27 16:55               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-01 16:50                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 14:01 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-20 14:18   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-20 16:10   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 20:41     ` Michael Niedermayer
     [not found]       ` <3C1074B4-096B-4806-BFB0-9D491E148C48@cosmin.at>
2024-02-20 21:12         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-02-20 21:51           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-22 21:54             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 14:25               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-20 16:07 ` Nicolas George
2024-02-20 19:57 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-22 21:16   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 14:00 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-23 14:15   ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 16:07   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-01 17:33 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-02  5:37   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-02 19:01     ` Ronald S. Bultje
     [not found]       ` <3EB2D263-CAB5-4096-A061-D880D4BE95F6@cosmin.at>
2024-03-02 19:08         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-03-03  1:34     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03  7:23       ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-03  2:49   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 21:57     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-03 23:36       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 23:56         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 18:38           ` Niklas Haas
2024-03-05 19:02           ` Nicolas George
2024-03-04 21:15         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-05  2:36           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 10:23             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-04  0:57     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-04  9:45       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-05  2:50         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 10:27           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-06 23:25             ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2024-03-07  3:37               ` Zhao Zhili
2024-03-07 14:01               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-08 13:16                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-03-05 12:44           ` Vittorio Giovara [this message]
2024-03-06  2:06             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-22 12:52   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-22 13:01     ` Nicolas George
2024-03-22 13:05     ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-25  9:41       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-25 12:10         ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-25 14:49           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-24  2:21     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-24 11:40       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-24 23:44         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-25  9:44           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-26  8:20   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-26 22:14     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-29 11:39     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-29 19:52       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-01 11:16 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-01 12:20   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-04-01 13:07     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-01 14:59   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-01 15:46     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-01 15:41   ` Paul B Mahol

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