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From: Vittorio Giovara <vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: extra members for GA
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2023 17:45:16 -0500
Message-ID: <CABLWnS8w-NOKU4JiVdc=yMsURGH5XSp2XuxbhrJ+C8D4UJXoYQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231109201734.GF3543730@pb2>

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 3:17 PM Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 08:30:15PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, at 19:15, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 07:53:33PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > >> Le torstaina 9. marraskuuta 2023, 19.41.53 EET Michael Niedermayer a
> écrit :
> > > [...]
> > >> If you think some people should be added, as far as I am concerned,
> you are of
> > >> course welcome to nudge them via private message to friendly remind
> them that
> > >> they can nominate themselves.
> > >
> > > so what i will do then is
> > > If a developer was in the GA before || are just under the threshold but
> > > active || are part of the infra teams and packaging
> > > i will leave them in the list to be added (that is also what jb
> suggested)
> >
> > Of course, this seems reasonable.
> >
> > > I will contact them and ask if they want to be in the GA and
> >
> > You should contact who you want, or think is necessary.
>
>
>
> > But they should step forward and say so publicly that they are
> candidates.
>
> I think this is asking too much and it is unfair. We are not in any other
> case demanding that people announce themselfs infront of everyone for
> anything. Not for joining the mailing list, Not for anything else.
> Especially not for having vote rights.
>

This is unmanageable. As mentioned, being subscribed to the mailing list
should be the very first minimum requirement, and secondly the candidates
should speak up.
We don't want people to put words in their mouth, or guilt trip them into
performing work they don't want to do, or given the project's troubled
history give them a ptsd attack bringing back bad memories.
Voting is definitely a right, and in most rights there are obligations tied
to it as well, one of them is the obligation of announcing publicly a
candidacy to the GA.
-- 
Vittorio
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-05  9:24 Anton Khirnov
2023-11-05 19:57 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-05 23:25   ` James Almer
2023-11-05 23:39     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-09  9:44 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 11:55   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 12:11     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-09 15:40       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 16:39         ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-09 12:14     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-09 12:21     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 12:24       ` James Almer
2023-11-09 12:28         ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-10 12:50           ` Reimar Döffinger
2023-11-10 10:57         ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-11-09 16:21       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 16:36         ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-09 17:24           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 17:31             ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-09 17:50               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 18:09                 ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-10 11:33               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 12:39                 ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-10 13:04                   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-11 23:45                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 23:49                     ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-11-11 23:59                     ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-09 17:06         ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 17:39           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 18:12             ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 18:50               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 19:15                 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 22:01                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 17:39           ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-09 16:50       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 17:04         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-09 17:41           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 17:53             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]               ` <2D211056-1560-4869-9279-7CEC9BA25AC4@cosmin.at>
2023-11-09 18:11                 ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-09 18:38                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-09 18:15               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 18:34                 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 18:41                 ` Martin Storsjö
2023-11-09 19:30                 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-09 20:17                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 20:27                     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 22:45                     ` Vittorio Giovara [this message]
2023-11-09 22:49                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-09 22:58                     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-10 11:06                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 13:16                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 13:37                         ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-11  2:24                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11  3:06                         ` James Almer
2023-11-11 17:28                           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 18:02                             ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-11 18:40                               ` James Almer
2023-11-11 18:25                             ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-12 17:14                               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-12 17:53                                 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-10 10:54           ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-11-10 12:24             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-10 19:31               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 19:42                 ` Martin Storsjö
2023-11-10 19:50                   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-10 20:21                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-09 12:45     ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-09 22:00     ` Alexander Strasser
2023-11-10  0:18       ` James Almer
2023-11-10 10:41     ` Tobias Rapp

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