Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization

[Vittorio Giovara <vittorio.giovara@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 7:21 PM Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
wrote:

> About people pointing to me as the cause of something they do.
> Given iam in this project for over 20 years and iam the main author and
> we had a fork long ago. With many people joining back together. There are
> people who have had past hate and present hate towards me.
> Whenever there is an oppertunity, some will point to me as teh
> cause.
>

Well "look who it is the consequences of my own actions"


> It makes sense to look at these and ask "do they point to a real issue?"
> is there something we can learn and improve or is this just dislike towards
> me and are they just asking for me to be "hanged"/"removed".
>

Who banned someone without cause and due process, and deleted the archive?
Who is undermining the GA and filibustering the ffmpeg governance?
Who prevented the previous CC from operating?
Who is ignoring the scam of the ffmpeg booths at trade shows?
Who helped keep relevant parts of the infrastructure hidden for years?
Who is preventing new roots from joining and actual infrastructure work
being done?
Who posted insulting images on social networks?
Who quoted the STF an unreasonable amount of money for a project that
*everybody* agrees is not worth that much?
Who argued for MONTHS about dubious code features, and pushed code (later
reverted) to the main tree because it served their own branch?
Who is refusing to join community discussions in person (or remotely), and
keeps posting walls of text that are hard to track and makes following the
discussion harder than needs to be?
Who is pretending to be democratic and trying to appear as a martyr,
causing people to leave while they actually wanted to contribute and help
steward this community?

I don't want to get banned again for posting a bullet list, but I
definitely see a pattern. AND THIS IS JUST IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

The thing is NOBODY wants to see you hanged or removed, we're just pleading
to your common sense and that you listen to the community, allowing for an
independent governance to effectively operate ffmpeg. If you can't satisfy
the community requests, then yes, the "unfriendly emails" will continue
until this behavior is put to an end. And I know you won't believe me
because I'm from "the other side", but once again I invite you to the
FOSDEM ffmpeg meeting and see what the community really thinks and wants
for yourself.

I do belive one big part of some people leaving over the last years is that
> they are not enough in power.
>

This reads like "I want them to be good minions while I continue to do what
I want", but you're right it's off topic.
-- 
Vittorio
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