From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD8A04C0CC for ; Fri, 23 May 2025 11:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BB668DED3; Fri, 23 May 2025 14:26:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail-yw1-f169.google.com (mail-yw1-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89A8168D449 for ; Fri, 23 May 2025 14:26:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail-yw1-f169.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-70dec158cb7so37896167b3.2 for ; Fri, 23 May 2025 04:26:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1747999570; x=1748604370; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=MTB0wWELjTjoIsiI+eQ5AfSG0IGhdeqpwqDwKnFcv18=; b=QS8cvXA01cSvGHRFSb7Sf7sz/35YdGRQBVY98CJV5I3N/SK41WBPk064syBNtGEq1L xuLekGy+ZwhEyCJvdvCZ7Ph0I3y2uFPuIhQPBuy86UF1M0X2kl79zCOQeoj7NCgfsIHD OJpvFg67KjLG+TA97mVWKEMdph4qjca93ZH1CZudc9k2zAXQlADZUwXZhTpU2Yvm+Djx 2Ag5VaSvOvCE55PEbLuw2v6AoMpaF+4RUkAPNifxMJfXzbaUoqf/KAJUXoeDGyV+v7pt Zbh4jV5oqx2DiG85s3b3egomZjuVrUXODyqOcRGMCp6YALCu7XXymGupW1g4Sya9feV3 l29Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwZpIyykOZRjTFBXdV0QUawLb0oORPQoTa5VhecSoye201iOLaG x1eLIpaeeRQrQfqss8SWHdUvO/8a2kOcRpuSSBujCvg3PkInE8EA4OwCMJ1rAQ2Syn9waiPFshk NgyFkc8OYJLHe8vNSIBdQ9X9fWQdBAWMvEw== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuJjyVC8vg+4F2F7ER0CxnKg9rdKwQuznvmtjd+K/F/dkhEdvGLhKnMhAUlwAn v6q04WSQjqAMRC3zyTouZpX5jNzY6UugMKV5vSLZQQkjbiTZQiOwXBusz+Qf+EdwMrQpMqhPYpv WniHVGbkBp6p2RfS4fKAZxXIzbMv0OUwon X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFu3AccTLw/A8XVgg/wYaEMWnKksMdr11RSOP6yF7VDcbBxg9eeQdNKAXVkOIo2wt+rOk5DyUGWjI8sP7ZZtlg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:6f83:b0:70d:fd6f:b15b with SMTP id 00721157ae682-70dfd6fbb77mr115234357b3.3.1747999569839; Fri, 23 May 2025 04:26:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250523094514.GW29660@pb2> <20250523095801.GX29660@pb2> In-Reply-To: <20250523095801.GX29660@pb2> Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 12:25:58 +0100 X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFvLJeBE1qUIsJI9h43ytszHlZcwAM8fDkkHfin7_jUapfoRT7LTCtLuNFE Message-ID: To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF RaptorQ X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: Kieran Kunhya Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Fri, 23 May 2025, 10:58 Michael Niedermayer, wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 11:45:14AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > Hi > [...] > > > I agree with Kieran that this seems to largely be outside the STF > > > objectives (i.e. sustainability for open source projects). > > > > A new implementation of RIST, SRT, Raptor and so on may fall outside > > but redesigning the protocol layer in FFmpeg would perfectly fit inside > > "sustainability for open source projects" > > When you want A and B and both are connected, you ask for the funding > > to be for the side that fits inside the guidelines > > So this STF project could be changed to center on maintaince of the > > protocol layer instead of a RaptorQ/SRT/RIST implementation i think. > > Theres also the human element, where people are not machienes that can > be placed and told things arbitrary. RaptorQ is "cool", ARQ is boring > > Some people enjoy working on "cool" things, dont tell them to work on > boring things please. Its bad for them, and likely bad for the results. > They can work on cool things outside of STF. Kieran > _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".