[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg "supporters" doxing

[Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2025, 20:39 Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel, <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:

> Hi Remi
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 07:55:09PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont via
> ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> >
> >
> > Le 29 octobre 2025 19:09:15 GMT+02:00, Michael Niedermayer via
> ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> a écrit :
> > >Does this also apply to the case where kieran doxxed thilo ?
> >
>
> > When did that happen?
>
> Wed, 31 Jan 2024
>
>
> > Doxxing is the publication of personal info against that person's will -
> not quoting some already public info. I seem to recall Kieran *asking* what
> actual business stood at a postal address published by NAB (or was it IBC?)
> under the name of "FFmpeg".
>
> doxxing is about identifying a specific person and exposing or amplifying
> info in a way that foreseeably invites harassment or harm.
> Even a public work address can fit this
> Especially with hostile framing.
>
>
> >
> > Then someone else claimed it to be Thilo's home address. I could recall
> wrong and in any case, I don't recall for sure who did that. But indeed,
> unless it was Thilo himself, then we could consider that that third person
> was doxxing Thilo.
>
> Thilo announced the NAB 2024 booth:
>
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2023-November/316474.html
>     Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 21:37:04 +0100
>     Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg at NAB 2024
>
> Kieran participated in that thread on:
>     Sun Nov 19 16:26:22 EET 2023
>
> https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2023-November/317199.html
>     This and surrounding mails also question a range of things in a
> hostile tone
>
> So Kieran knew that Thilo was associated with the booth. And there was a
> prior set
> of critique pointing to thilo.
> Subsequently posting the address and asking "Who does this address belong
> to?"
> is IMO Doxxing
>
> also, he asked "Who" not "which company"
>
>
> >
> > As for Kieran's quote, Thilo is welcome to thank Kieran for the notice
> and complain to the conference organisation for their lackluster privacy.
>
> Kieran posted the address in public. That was not neccessary to inform
> Thilo about it
>

Define: Doxxing:
search for and publish private or identifying information about (a
particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.

The information was not searched for, it was attached to the FFmpeg booth
listing. It was by definition not private as it was published explicitly
with the booth. It was not individually associated as this was marked as
the address for "FFmpeg".

It is right for the project to understand who owns this address.

Kieran

>
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