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From: Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
To: Zhao Zhili <quinkblack@foxmail.com>
Cc: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
	<ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>,
	code+AICQIAH6AETBGCQACBFQCNLF7VBPY3U76D5SFB7AR2NR4CQADMDQIAH42WOYLLADAYAACDQKAAFQCAYGAAAQKBAA7ZOYQ@ffmpeg.org,
	Kieran Kunhya <kieran618@googlemail.com>
Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: Soliciting sponsorship (was: WIP: avfilter: add Bungee audio stretch filter (PR #20697))
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 13:22:04 +0100
Message-ID: <CABGuwEks_YUCYQidqnq02ACcDikNpXV2SrWfaxz51V=cQsnBeA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tencent_5D19A056CDCDCFA7D510A71238A29639CD07@qq.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 12:39 PM Zhao Zhili <quinkblack@foxmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 2025, at 18:53, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 11:32 AM Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
> > <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> michaelni (HE12025-10-13):
> >>> Also you would have to convince the community, that we want this. iam
> >>> not sure how the community would think about it, but for example you
> >>> could offer to donate a percentage of your profits from this to
> >>> ffmpeg.
> >>
> >> Hi. I procrastinated replying about soliciting sponsorships, but if it
> >> looks like that I cannot anymore. Also, it must not be discussed in the
> >> dark of an obscure pull request, it needs to be seen on the
> >> mailing-list.
> >>
> >> If this is how us soliciting sponsorships looks like, then we must
> >> absolutely not do it.
> >>
> >> “Pay us and we will consider ignoring the qualms we have about the
> >> licensing issues of your contribution” is already very bad by itself. It
> >> is even badder when we realize it is only one step from “pay us and we
> >> will consider ignoring the qualms we have about the poor quality of your
> >> code”.
> >>
> >> Ideally, accepting contributions should be judged on the merits of the
> >> contribution itself: is the code beautiful? does it bring practical
> >> benefit to our users? Out of necessity we have to add: will this be
> >> properly maintained? But no more.
> >>
> >> We can solicit sponsorship, sure, but even the appearance that the money
> >> is a tit-for-tat for getting one's code into the project, getting
> >> excellent publicity and future maintenance work for cheap, would be
> >> extremely detrimental.
> >>
> >
> > I agree.
> > There's is definitely a discussion to be had about the reasons FFmpeg
> > accepts a third-party lib. There are now many libs being proposed into
> > FFmpeg as marketing exercises.
> >
> > I also think we should encourage people to maintain and more
>
> Should or shouldn’t? I’m a little confused.
>
> > importantly test their own repositories of FFmpeg with their open
> > source or proprietary libs (on Forgejo?).

We should just let people have their libXXX fork of FFmpeg on Forgejo
in my opinion if we don't want to upstream the code.

Kieran
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-14 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20697@code.ffmpeg.org>
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     [not found]   ` <FFmpeg/FFmpeg/pulls/20697/comment/11972@code.ffmpeg.org>
2025-10-14 10:32     ` [FFmpeg-devel] " Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-14 10:53       ` [FFmpeg-devel] " Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-14 11:39         ` Zhao Zhili via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-14 12:22           ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel [this message]
2025-10-16  9:58             ` Nicolas George via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-14 16:26       ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-14 17:02       ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2025-10-15 11:04       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont via ffmpeg-devel

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