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From: Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Cc: Kieran Kunhya <kieran618@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] web: announce code.ffmpeg.org
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 15:20:28 +0100
Message-ID: <CABGuwE=vHv6ys+nr+VXcQwbB=dCDMu57xkVyWnTntrOrywC8Pw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aINtUU1vOS6CpfaW@phare.normalesup.org>

On Fri, 25 Jul 2025, 12:41 Nicolas George, <george@nsup.org> wrote:

> Jacob Lifshay (HE12025-07-24):
> > ok, I prefer to never do that though because it makes reading the
> > patches very annoying. Anyone should be able to read the patches
> > without having to download files and open them in their editor (which
> > is particularly annoying on phones), leaving a bunch of unwanted files
> > around when you're done reading.
>
> I see your complaint about mail. But then I notice that you are posting
> from GMail.
>
> You have to realize that GMail's software is not meant for the likes of
> you or me, it is not meant for people who see a plain text file and
> think text/plain, it is meant for people who see a plain text file and
> look for the way to set it in Comic Sans.
>
> GMail's software is designed to sustain Google's cyberfeudalism market
> model: make it very easy to enter and very hard to leave. Making it hard
> to leave has the unavoidable consequence to give very little control
> that power users can use.
>
> You, and anybody who does not exclaim “I'm not a computer scientist” when
> they see a dialog box with more than two buttons, would greatly benefit
> from replacing your use of GMail's software with a real mail client
> running under your own control.
>
> Not just for your contributions to FFmpeg but for your daily use of mail
> also. For example, where GMail only shows you a “conversation” with all
> mail in chronological order, a real mail software can show you it as a
> tree, making it clear who is responding to who. When the discussion is
> not linear, it makes a world of difference.
>
> Note that you can use a real mail client running under your
> responsibility and still use Google's gratis hosting, you just need to
> connect your client to your GMail account.
>
> And even if you do not want to change your habits, even if you want to
> continue to use the GMail webmail-for-lusers in your day to day use of
> mail, you can still use a second client just for the patches on the
> mailing-list, preferably automating it: a few shell scripts and the
> patches will be ready for you in the format you prefer.
>
> In short and imaged, I see you arguing that screws are too difficult to
> use and we should use twisted vines instead, but the real issue is that
> you are using a Playskool Plastic Tool Set instead of a proper
> screwdriver.
>
> Regards,
>

The internet is there to sustain cyber feudalism of big tech. You should be
using Faxes and BBSs hosted on true analogue telephone systems. None of
this digital nonsense.

Kieran

>
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-22  3:53 Lynne
2025-07-22  8:44 ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-22  9:15   ` Jacob Lifshay
2025-07-25  3:40     ` compn
2025-07-25  3:58       ` Jacob Lifshay
2025-07-25  4:36         ` compn
2025-07-25 11:41         ` Nicolas George
2025-07-25 14:20           ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel [this message]
2025-07-23  4:05   ` Lynne
2025-07-22 15:01 ` Leo Izen
2025-07-23  4:01   ` Lynne
2025-07-22 23:04 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23  4:01   ` Lynne
2025-07-23  9:16     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23  9:39       ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-07-23  9:59         ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23 10:02           ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2025-07-23 11:48           ` Nicolas George
2025-07-25  4:05           ` compn
2025-07-26 14:57             ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23  9:38     ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-23 11:49       ` Nicolas George
2025-07-26 17:03 ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 19:29   ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 20:01     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 20:14       ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 20:24         ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 20:29           ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 20:41           ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 20:45             ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 21:07             ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 21:18               ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 22:44             ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-26 22:57               ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 22:48             ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-07-26 20:28         ` Derek Buitenhuis
2025-07-26 20:14     ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 20:23       ` Timo Rothenpieler
2025-07-26 20:29         ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-07-26 20:33           ` Derek Buitenhuis

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