[FFmpeg-devel] Access to the ARM server

[FFmpeg-devel] Access to the ARM server

[Zhao Zhili]

Hi,

From Twitter
> Unlike the majority of hardware/cloud companies, Ampere have supported the FFmpeg project by giving us a 160-core ARM server for development.

Is the Ampere ARM server still available? Is it only for FATE or other particular purpose?
Can I request to have access to the Ampere ARM server for testing?
Thanks.
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Access to the ARM server

[Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2025, 08:47 Zhao Zhili, <quinkblack-at-foxmail.com@ffmpeg.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> From Twitter
> > Unlike the majority of hardware/cloud companies, Ampere have supported
> the FFmpeg project by giving us a 160-core ARM server for development.
>
> Is the Ampere ARM server still available? Is it only for FATE or other
> particular purpose?
> Can I request to have access to the Ampere ARM server for testing?
> Thanks.
>

The server belongs to @Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org>

Kieran

>
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Access to the ARM server

[Nicolas George]

Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-03-25):
> The server belongs to @Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org>

Are you saying that the tweet that says “giving ***us*** a 160-core ARM
server” (emphasis mine) is a lie?

-- 
  Nicolas George
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Access to the ARM server

[Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel]

Come on, this is being deliberately facetious, FFmpeg has no legal
entity that they could give it to.
The server was given to @Jean-Baptiste Kempf for the purposes of
FFmpeg development and I host it.

Martin makes extensive use of it for development.

@Cc This is unnecessarily aggressive and I would like to report it.

Kieran

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 8:55 AM Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:
>
> Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-03-25):
> > The server belongs to @Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org>
>
> Are you saying that the tweet that says “giving ***us*** a 160-core ARM
> server” (emphasis mine) is a lie?
>
> --
>   Nicolas George
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Access to the ARM server

[Rémi Denis-Courmont]

Hi,

I answered, but the position of the CC is such that there is nothing we can do about NG in general.

Suspension will not achieve anything (and in this particular case, seems a bit heavy-handed), and permanent ban is not something that the CC can do under the current CoC.

Br,

Le 25 mars 2025 11:32:38 GMT+02:00, Kieran Kunhya <kieran618@googlemail.com> a écrit :
>Come on, this is being deliberately facetious, FFmpeg has no legal
>entity that they could give it to.
>The server was given to @Jean-Baptiste Kempf for the purposes of
>FFmpeg development and I host it.
>
>Martin makes extensive use of it for development.
>
>@Cc This is unnecessarily aggressive and I would like to report it.
>
>Kieran
>
>On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 8:55 AM Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:
>>
>> Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-03-25):
>> > The server belongs to @Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org>
>>
>> Are you saying that the tweet that says “giving ***us*** a 160-core ARM
>> server” (emphasis mine) is a lie?
>>
>> --
>>   Nicolas George
>
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Access to the ARM server

[Michael Niedermayer]

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Hi Kieran

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 09:32:38AM +0000, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Come on, this is being deliberately facetious, FFmpeg has no legal
> entity that they could give it to.

Software in the Public Interest, Inc. a tax exempt 501(c)3 non profit
can legally own for FFmpeg any hardware or equipment.

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of college or go to community college in order to be able to afford
settlements. -- The RIAA

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Access to the ARM server

[Rémi Denis-Courmont]

Hi,


Le 25 mars 2025 10:55:35 GMT+02:00, Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> a écrit :
>Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel (HE12025-03-25):
>> The server belongs to @Jean-Baptiste Kempf <jb@videolan.org>
>
>Are you saying that the tweet that says “giving ***us*** a 160-core ARM
>server” (emphasis mine) is a lie?

By that logic, any claim of "donation" to FFmpeg would be a lie.

That goes with Ampere, and it likewise goes with the RISC-V hardware "donated by Remlab Tmi" that is entirely dedicated to running FFmpeg FATE and FFmpeg tests. Or to all our infrastructure, literally none of which is legally owned by "FFmpeg", including the servers in Eastern Europe that Michael has been so vocally grateful for.

And let's not forget the sponsors of "FFmpeg" booths at various trade shows. All those donours want to donate to "FFmpeg", even though that's not legally a thing.

You're being unnecessarily aggressive and accusatory. You've made it clear previously that you didn't want to spend more free time on non-technical FFmpeg stuff, so it's a bit rich to criticise people for working around the absence of a suitable FFmpeg non-profit. And TBH, it's demeaning of the tremendous work that Martin has done for FFmpeg with that machine, whether in FFmpeg or in tooling.

Br,
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