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From: Robert Nagy <robert.nagy@nxtedition.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] lavfi: protection against premultiplied alpha (was: The patch series about premultiplied alpha)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 11:25:01 +0200
Message-ID: <CAB5_wstrwMkCGnJPKfmY82=zs6916G7MwwyXpE0sKHwATQ0XNg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJHL8nVRBc_AoMa6@phare.normalesup.org>

On a side note. Shouldn't ffprobe also report the detect alpha mode if
the decoder/container supports it?

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:16 AM Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:
>
> Nicolas George (HE12025-08-05):
> > > I will repeat myself briefly here that such a flag should be an opt-out, not
> > > an opt-in. Supporting premultiplied alpha should be the default assumption
> > > unless provable otherwise.
> >
> > Absolutely not.
> >
> > Do you dereference a pointer when you can prove it cannot be NULL or
> > when you cannot prove it can be NULL? It is the same: if you cannot
> > prove a filter produces a valid result, then we protect by default. It
> > is already too much that it is not blocking when it is unspecified. On
> > this I will stand firm.
>
> Just an extra point:
>
> Imagine we had done it opt-out as you suggest, and you were looking at
> the list of >300 video filter source files.
>
> Would you have thought to set the opt-out flag to drawbox?
>
> I know you have the integrity to do so, so please take the time to think
> about it and answer honestly.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
>   Nicolas George
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-05  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-02 15:18 [FFmpeg-devel] The patch series about premultiplied alpha Nicolas George
2025-08-02 18:03 ` Nicolas George
2025-08-03 10:42   ` Niklas Haas
2025-08-03 10:50     ` Niklas Haas
2025-08-03 14:35     ` Nicolas George
2025-08-03 15:49       ` Nicolas George
2025-08-03 18:15         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] lavfi: protection against premultiplied alpha (was: The patch series about premultiplied alpha) Nicolas George
2025-08-03 20:04           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-08-03 20:50             ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-08-05  8:51           ` Niklas Haas
2025-08-05  8:58             ` Robert Nagy
2025-08-05  9:05             ` Nicolas George
2025-08-05  9:16               ` Nicolas George
2025-08-05  9:25                 ` Robert Nagy [this message]
2025-08-05  9:31                   ` Nicolas George
2025-08-05  9:31                     ` Robert Nagy

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