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From: Robert Nagy <robert.nagy@nxtedition.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] lavfi: protection against premultiplied alpha (was: The patch series about premultiplied alpha)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 10:58:12 +0200
Message-ID: <CAB5_wss4WGONaZ8gsuq1bJj51_yzAjKQcaQS963vd7KHdDGHhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250805105119.GD219179@haasn.xyz>

Just wanted to clarify that this feature is not just academic but
something that is quite important for broadcasters where we often
receive/send content of mixed alpha type.

Users often don't know the difference between the alpha type and send
material in whatever mode their editing software happens to use.
During playout premultiplied alpha has become much more common.
Especially since often output from e.g. Chrome is used during
composition (which is premultiplied) and newer video switchers seem to
move towards premultiplied. While more traditional workflows use
straight alpha. Hence we often end up with a mix we need to somehow
handle.

In our use case we try to guess the alpha mode with the "colordetect"
filter and/or let the users explicitly set the alpha mode and then we
forward that using setparams. Without this feature it is difficult
and/or inefficient to get composition using e.g. vf_overlay or
vf_libplacebo working well.

--
Robert
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-05  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-02 15:18 [FFmpeg-devel] The patch series about premultiplied alpha Nicolas George
2025-08-02 18:03 ` Nicolas George
2025-08-03 10:42   ` Niklas Haas
2025-08-03 10:50     ` Niklas Haas
2025-08-03 14:35     ` Nicolas George
2025-08-03 15:49       ` Nicolas George
2025-08-03 18:15         ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] lavfi: protection against premultiplied alpha (was: The patch series about premultiplied alpha) Nicolas George
2025-08-03 20:04           ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-08-03 20:50             ` Kacper Michajlow
2025-08-05  8:51           ` Niklas Haas
2025-08-05  8:58             ` Robert Nagy [this message]
2025-08-05  9:05             ` Nicolas George
2025-08-05  9:16               ` Nicolas George
2025-08-05  9:25                 ` Robert Nagy
2025-08-05  9:31                   ` Nicolas George
2025-08-05  9:31                     ` Robert Nagy

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