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From: Hendrik Leppkes <h.leppkes@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] libavformat/vapoursynth: Update to API version 4, load library at runtime
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 15:41:55 +0200
Message-ID: <CA+anqdz6z0SEAA+qfSRunSkyMgcNytaKuSsfLA-CEcGM0auiXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALweWgC6j7sree6HkQmP0Y8PHz9i=u7GTLTpZO1OjfQEMpzxmg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 2:14 PM Ramiro Polla <ramiro.polla@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 12:15 AM Hendrik Leppkes <h.leppkes@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 12:08 AM Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
> > <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Am 18.07.24 um 17:23 schrieb epirat07@gmail.com:
> > > >
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Well, the DLL directory is added to PATH by the VapourSynth installer,
> > > >>> but for safety reasons ffmpeg explictly tells the LoadLibrary function
> > > >>> to only search the application directory and system32, quote from
> > > >>> w32dlfcn.h:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> /**
> > > >>>>   * Safe function used to open dynamic libs. This attempts to improve program security
> > > >>>>   * by removing the current directory from the dll search path. Only dll's found in the
> > > >>>>   * executable or system directory are allowed to be loaded.
> > > >>>>   * @param name  The dynamic lib name.
> > > >>>>   * @return A handle to the opened lib.
> > > >>>>   */
> > > >>> So ffmpeg prevents that solution on purpose. Or should that behavior be
> > > >>> changed in the w32dlfcn.h?
> > > >>
> > > >> Oh, bummer. I would expect that overriding the PATH environment
> > > >> variable would work kind of like how LD_LIBRARY_PATH works on Linux. I
> > > >> don't know why that was changed. I don't really follow what goes on in
> > > >> Windowsland anymore. Does anyone else care to comment on this? Martin,
> > > >> maybe?
> > > >
> > > > IIRC this is done to prevent DLL injection attacks
> > > >
> > > > https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlls/dynamic-link-library-security
> > > >
> > >
> > > So what's your proposal how to continue?
> > >
> > > I see different options with pros&cons:
> > >
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > Read the DLL path from registry, function for that could be located
> > > outside the VapourSynth module.
> > >
> > > Pro: Safest method to protect from DLL-injection
> > > Con: A lot of custom code/functionality for Windows
> > >
> >
> > Relaxing security considerations to avoid a 10 line function seems not
> > worth it to me. So go with actually finding the correct path.
>
> I would prefer changing w32dlfcn.h to allow loading DLLs from PATH.
> Limiting to only the directory of the executable and system32 seems
> too excessive to me. Removing the current working directory is more
> understandable, but it's perfectly fine to expect PATH to be searched.
>

This is common and largely expected DLL loading behavior on Windows.
Changing that to avoid 10 lines of code is rather ill advised.

- Hendrik
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-22 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-06 21:08 Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18  9:37 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 11:25   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-18 15:38     ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-22  6:57       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-23  0:24         ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 11:08 ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-18 12:48   ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 13:04     ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-18 13:41       ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 14:21         ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-18 14:53           ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-19 17:05             ` Stephen Hutchinson
2024-07-18 15:23           ` epirat07
2024-07-21 22:08             ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-21 22:15               ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-07-22  0:42                 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-22  6:36                   ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-07-22 12:13                 ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-22 13:41                   ` Hendrik Leppkes [this message]
2024-07-22 18:28                     ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-22 13:52                   ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel

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