From: Hendrik Leppkes <h.leppkes@gmail.com>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] enable auto vectorization for gcc 7 and higher
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 23:07:49 +0200
Message-ID: <CA+anqdwMtd5iYQKzKm=dXrbyXOv-FGR42z1_9Foa1usH4+n2=w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9fe209-f4d1-9b0-a8b2-85ee73d135be@martin.st>
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 11:02 PM Martin Storsjö <martin@martin.st> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2022, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 7:39 PM James Almer <jamrial@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/27/2022 2:34 PM, Swinney, Jonathan wrote:
> >>> I recognize that this patch is going to be somewhat controversial. I'm submitting it mostly to see what the opinions are and evaluate options. I am working on improving performance for aarch64. On that architecture, there are fewer hand written assembly implementations of hot functions than there are for x86_64 and allowing gcc to auto-vectorize yields noticeable improvements.
> >>>
> >>> Gcc vectorization has improved recently and it hasn't been evaluated on the mailing list for a few years. This is the latest discussion I found in my searches: http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2016-May/193977.html
> >>
> >> Every time this was done, it was inevitably reverted after complains and
> >> crash reports started piling up because gcc can't really handle all the
> >> inline code our codebase has, among other things.
> >>
> >
> > No need to wait for issues, I just tested, and the same issues still
> > persist that have existed for years with GCC now. They don't seem to
> > care to make it compatible with inline asm, which might be fair
> > enough, but it means it just can't work here.
> >
> > In file included from libavcodec/cabac_functions.h:49,
> > from libavcodec/h264_cabac.c:36:
> > libavcodec/h264_cabac.c: In function 'ff_h264_decode_mb_cabac':
> > libavcodec/x86/cabac.h:199:5: error: 'asm' operand has impossible constraints
>
> This particular bit of inline assembly has historically been very
> problematic in many configurations (although primarily on i386 I think) -
> see e.g. 8990c5869e27fcd43b53045f87ba251f42e7d293. Would something like
> that be enough for that build configuration to succeed, or are there many
> other cases that break?
>
I can test tomorrow, but if we start influencing optimizer decisions
just to run another optimizer flag, such a change would need to be
backed with (positive!) performance numbers, and _very_ thorough
testing (as we all know, trying to prove that something is not an
issue is practically impossible, as the combinations are infinite)
- Hendrik
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-27 21:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-27 17:34 Swinney, Jonathan
2022-07-27 17:39 ` James Almer
2022-07-27 17:49 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2022-07-27 20:41 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2022-07-27 21:01 ` Martin Storsjö
2022-07-27 21:07 ` Hendrik Leppkes [this message]
2022-07-27 21:33 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2022-07-28 1:02 ` Soft Works
2022-07-28 1:05 ` James Almer
2022-07-28 1:10 ` Soft Works
2022-07-28 1:15 ` Soft Works
2022-07-27 18:54 ` Soft Works
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