From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC4F24B003 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C8768BD99; Wed, 29 Jan 2025 22:21:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail-pl1-f172.google.com (mail-pl1-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C94B968BCE4 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2025 22:21:37 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail-pl1-f172.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-21bc1512a63so752765ad.1 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2025 12:21:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1738182095; x=1738786895; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=xdPGUj6Y6ZbFc05LCHNxDoGw6HbmYfemKZ50AzKQQiY=; b=YzPQqNi53TPMdO+nVNmNV5ORHHG8kKAehKI6g3lLAtYgxtikaJa2c6Zdc6c7fgJhRR oDbOTY85if1MzIHMa1qMCb15i8OQEuTPYQRiei6sqdWIa/zS3rljxdXj3FZWhBPMiqgX 3ArL7RgWVWvTD5GALdJMMN1jtlIcEpN3/+/+0jjS/DAkKGmwRMb9kPvWk+x8iJs3U6rH VA7hCxmNNXTUGtvpWBQL0OKb7CGZcAicAyhx2D+TU+WKIydxPP3oKsItc1z22Xv6K9Hw Mse1c+fBsdaqLmh1HCoSHyxCQJAWbk0qOopXcog6rmk6pF6sztsWg+ULLE3bbh2wVBkR lR1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxjibUHK9JPgAEf6nVRRj4j8HJrKCbsQlMOJFLBSmlU0mBm5xkU 1SgnZPwh0UNHak0qG7qpEHAIBzmpa/H2wxxnAC0l0apEwzaAw1z2SsqRB662LR+eacSHqnk7i/8 EDWFHnncApVuEzFHF9NE1wsoNefTKRujFY9m/SRH7lI+YadC+/PA= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsFh2bOn/mhBCMOAl4VIuxtuVFgA2cebnGVTk/WRJg1lmi7ljKdFBJSc55vJyF 4cFGLNL8X7uQok+Jivb5kuROx6rLp4VUbI56Wggg7PTO8jPFxig/UvgDOoEQBIGmVCxw44z93 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF/00VFoyv52GJ7J6jc/Bph9mjtlpx6iggblieBrpomdJdZSutOv9Zf1WTLMwQVXCpZ7LjqpoGmfjX0OpehidI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a21:3401:b0:1db:dfc0:d342 with SMTP id adf61e73a8af0-1ed7a48c76fmr8250654637.7.1738182094930; Wed, 29 Jan 2025 12:21:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250102141731.GR4991@pb2> <20250126191713.GQ4991@pb2> <2572295.Sgy9Pd6rRy@basile.remlab.net> <20250128182122.GX4991@pb2> <20250129161629.GB159671@haasn.xyz> <20250129061230.00003b92@hawaiiantel.net> In-Reply-To: From: Marth64 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 14:20:58 -0600 X-Gm-Features: AWEUYZmq3ULdcCimBVxpEIFGDNfZiFN0ukMmMv4DfMBOR7kn5WCv6PdhkNQlMWM Message-ID: To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: Kieran Kunhya Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Hi Kieran: Trying to distill to a start of discussion points at the high level (without GPT). Converting the statements, from (issue)->(Michael) to (issue)->(effect): * The community wants the GA/TC/CC to be sovereign, but there is a BDOL model too which is not easily compatible, causing uncertainty about democracy in the project. We could inventory what the new operating models could be. Michael can make proposals too. Could this be a vote? * The community wants transparency about infrastructure, but Michael refuses to publish. Is Michael the only blocking factor? Is a possible solution that the information is published with an expanded need-to-know audience? * The community doesn't want arbitrary censorship, but there have been recent instances of this and it's causing friction. We could align on who gets the censorship rights and separate it from the infrastructure work itself. Is there one of these that we can have a focus group on and start with? Thank you _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".