From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D6B34913A for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C2968B6A5; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 23:08:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail-pl1-f182.google.com (mail-pl1-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8566468B446 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 23:08:42 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail-pl1-f182.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-21675fd60feso103478665ad.2 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:08:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1737407320; x=1738012120; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/pVjmoGtZBppVUyyfz2IXK6esR5c88qt1r9e/eIYPcs=; b=wzR8SRQnm4zSR39oat1Jx34vweIqXZDaaYqOz9AmZP+yzvbdO6Pj9NY5Cv2vNRbvFs 7cKWH/RpVnlWYPLlKjbcmPCPOPuSTCnroW1skqVNIBf/RLu3aXRRFy/VnRYWX5s6v/lE c71DnGwYRjIFYHXOPj+1LxtY5bTLqKAlFC59o2ivAfhDwylR/Z2ElFqHboAGW0zZGfFD jJarPjYKbdmQUjEhQDN+Aq6KDZtTJCviFtbqwaVYQdzVyHL4EK0eeJ2urCwOjkE0+Aeh DkzA6gxbnYyvM78n0hemC1D7o+q8qgNFyit3f0oELT/Kqq8jb2LPNTaFgUKOlA0mTTQ5 dndw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzSz1lrA1cCas+4xjy7qVvdS0HadnHwak/vSdXhA3ei9jeXclTr hlZmtOndQvG1OVqhWL6PAKRNmBPFWY5EGjxfH+IpsjH3SdtdF+MyuRgbElo3oIy2zo4DSyVJf7Y CizG0GkoImEXDOMixyrqV0ctPVBcDnrSnOO6ynsc+4akd8kxdTT4= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvmP/jLPJVo4BtpaF56hYRCkhOTqLhcCH7O3EBLRPD+d0H6SkKf/2momUwd5Wg olxbkz4k7/RNYt+PxG38ofSXTiil1AgX7stE7oBJ0h8dgXdMV9lUD X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEIu66T4T2VVx/Mkx8/EBqXVMs+HswIZxIOvIatBVHnoXMNIJzxQQX2NS/7wEMScnXYTYEhQqXh7VDIN8qNykQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:4fd3:b0:728:e1e3:3d88 with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-72daf9bec6amr21154168b3a.7.1737407320607; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:08:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250102141731.GR4991@pb2> In-Reply-To: From: Marth64 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 15:08:04 -0600 X-Gm-Features: AbW1kvaPyBJ_d1oAbSPI8WcKNzzKpJiy-77XOTbCeE-zJ3chvpAqs2CKygB1kuU Message-ID: To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Hi Nicolas, Re: Tooling I am suggesting that there can be a middle ground somewhere. I am not fond of modern heavy web GUIs myself and fully understand that more senior developers have advanced needs. The custom tooling I am referring to is Patchwork. A neat tool, but is this not also a web GUI? The frustrations I have are somewhat centered around technical iterations/patches being email driven. GUIs have merit too and there can be value added even if it mostly benefits some senior developers but a lot of mid-term or short-term developers too. And if not the GUI, CI/CD automations or linters that can be leveraged to help. Everyone can make mistakes. --- Re: Leaders > They are *potential* leaders. To be actual leaders, they would need to > act as such, and the members of the project would need to respect them > as much. This is a fair point. But there are areas where knowledge is sparse and this is a big project. In these cases the best we have is subject matter experts, but if we can't attract talent then I'm not sure what else we can get. Thank you _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".