From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B110B4865D for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 16:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610BA68B5CA; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:16:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail-pl1-f176.google.com (mail-pl1-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF5D168B1FB for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:15:54 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail-pl1-f176.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-216426b0865so78438575ad.0 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1737389752; x=1737994552; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=eh28HNjqfiCFbISExUA1nNX5GO4ewqAXrNOl9LU+Txs=; b=qx3gmA18pteK3awsDOjq+Uh6nhV9aVVqmN/xO2K/XdTC4h7hC8Z06A0rXm4Kw8XVxl W2HmaBZMHvpTTLq3CKsv9SJtPawMMFx2UMc4wrwyE3DZmnACwTnQOQDKIMR0s738wPwq vfS/lXU6YgyjSmQE6/xAvSuM24Kzln6era902TOSAx36VvFrTHNl7hKe7mE/ogor2KAg fJn/r0s0acE7jvUX5ePT+Fh+KJta4LhMWj6A80a9e7dvSUGJ9R7nZuhV6OaeEV7elAfE ei5G+Gx1Eoq3x5fDVs6ow2cvUmQf0JGsnbr8njI+TUbNqAg5dhLVDfR6VMMS0j9mWLYB 1kxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw48CJMNbxAdAg3dQoLy0qRrpx1RWPciecepRnKbHtFEKz/tpBE dFT7sscx1KXbQlapa3Z4LwXFwrnOpzmOVaKoe7FMd9dMVcAYTKl3CPkMR4sIDQMqhDdfJaH+bT1 TbVZiPj1STANe2bBW2K4qy6CtkB8sBkismF2faGjOufWBrYqqeIG/cg== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncswhqOCQDIVXPJVeILpygvj87u2sHv70kJnvKoq1Ka6F3j6BnfTJqxTXAop8nT aW81WU95J44kjidkDbW8qytLYTIZ2GW9FVQOzlm/qsF/5VRDZGnzb X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHrvzEkVNHlhyyeQzLClLKvdH455fotxCk2kCiIZpMUJfPRka8jm8MJvA0GgSCSe+CtB4kzuKbwCOE6CENWdX8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1f11:b0:71e:2a0:b0b8 with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-72daf92ac24mr17761079b3a.1.1737389752516; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 08:15:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250102141731.GR4991@pb2> In-Reply-To: From: Marth64 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 10:15:16 -0600 X-Gm-Features: AbW1kvbubMSGWK3m2y4PLXs5LVtyfGQKzBYXchVop_L4z20Fz4YUdFwRVjZE_CU Message-ID: To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: IMHO (as myself and not representing the CC). The project already has technical leaders. The project already has great talent. The project has some semblance of democratic processes. The project is hard to work with or seemingly "hostile, non-welcoming" because we are using ancient workflows that aren't conducive to new innovation, or iterative development. Sure, there are grievances between people as there will be in any team. But what I feel is that these grievances get exacerbated, or productivity is lost, because it is 2025 and we have outgrown the tooling in use. That does not mean there can't be bridges to the ML pattern or integrations to give people the experience they like. But I think people would feel a lot less stressed and more productive if our tooling is modernized. Just my 2 cents. _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".