From: Marvin Scholz <epirat07@gmail.com> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 00/26] Major library version bump Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 20:33:37 +0100 Message-ID: <C8E375AD-CD47-48DF-8E79-B6A937AFC363@gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <167431989409.26119.3043585718968218@lain.khirnov.net> On 21 Jan 2023, at 17:51, Anton Khirnov wrote: > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-01-20 03:05:09) >> PS: iam not sure i fully understood the reason behind why versions should be >> set to "wrong" values during some period, so as always i might be missing >> something > > The reason is that after the major bump, the API and ABI are declared to > be unstable for some period, so people can freely > - break ABI, e.g. by reordering struct members > - modify API added during the instability period in an arbitrary way > without a new major bump for every such change, that would be normally > required. > > My concern is that the instability period is quite long and there is > very little indication for our users that they cannot depend on the > ABI/API being stable. So I'm proposing to introduce some mechanism to > make this more visible for our callers. I agree that a better way to know when I have an "unstable" version of ffmpeg would be great. Even as someone loosely following ffmpeg dev it is not clear to me when instability period ends and if we are currently in it or not. (I mean, I was lucky enough to notice this email now this time, but that was pure luck…) > > Alternatively, we could just not have an instability period at all. > Not having any instability period at all seems like a bad idea. > -- > Anton Khirnov > _______________________________________________ > ffmpeg-devel mailing list > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel > > To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email > ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-21 19:33 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2023-01-16 13:38 James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 01/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_OPENH264_SLICE_MODE James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 02/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_OPENH264_CABAC James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 03/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_UNUSED_CODEC_CAPS James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 04/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_THREAD_SAFE_CALLBACKS James Almer 2023-01-20 22:44 ` Michael Niedermayer 2023-01-23 22:05 ` James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 05/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_DEBUG_MV James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 06/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_GET_FRAME_CLASS James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 07/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_AUTO_THREADS James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 08/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_AVCTX_TIMEBASE James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 09/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_FLAG_TRUNCATED James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 10/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_SUB_TEXT_FORMAT James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 11/26] avformat: remove FF_API_LAVF_PRIV_OPT James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 12/26] avformat: remove FF_API_AVIOCONTEXT_WRITTEN James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 13/26] avformat: remove FF_HLS_TS_OPTIONS James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 14/26] avformat: remove FF_API_AVSTREAM_CLASS James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 15/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_SWS_PARAM_OPTION James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 16/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_BUFFERSINK_ALLOC James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 17/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_PAD_COUNT James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 18/26] avdevice: remove FF_API_DEVICE_CAPABILITIES James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 19/26] avutil: remove FF_API_D2STR James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 20/26] avutil: remove FF_API_DECLARE_ALIGNED James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 21/26] avutil: remove FF_API_COLORSPACE_NAME James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 22/26] avutil: remove FF_API_AV_MALLOCZ_ARRAY James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 23/26] avutil/version: postpone the remaining API deprecations James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 24/26] avcodec/version: " James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 25/26] avformat/version: " James Almer 2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 26/26] Bump major versions of all libraries James Almer 2023-01-18 19:28 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 00/26] Major library version bump Anton Khirnov 2023-01-18 21:23 ` James Almer 2023-01-19 7:26 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-19 12:18 ` James Almer 2023-01-19 15:23 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-20 2:05 ` Michael Niedermayer 2023-01-21 16:51 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-21 19:33 ` Marvin Scholz [this message] 2023-01-21 20:17 ` Hendrik Leppkes 2023-01-21 21:30 ` Marvin Scholz 2023-01-21 22:47 ` Hendrik Leppkes 2023-01-21 21:36 ` Michael Niedermayer 2023-01-21 22:00 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-22 22:54 ` Michael Niedermayer 2023-01-23 17:03 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-23 22:41 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-23 22:50 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-23 23:22 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-24 0:01 ` Michael Niedermayer 2023-01-24 0:06 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-24 7:59 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-24 19:48 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-21 22:01 ` Marvin Scholz 2023-01-20 15:07 ` Tomas Härdin 2023-01-20 21:23 ` Leo Izen 2023-01-21 16:54 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-24 15:45 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-25 15:44 ` James Almer 2023-01-25 20:08 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-25 20:44 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf 2023-01-25 21:03 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-25 21:15 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf 2023-01-25 21:20 ` Paul B Mahol 2023-01-25 21:26 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf 2023-01-25 21:29 ` Paul B Mahol 2023-01-25 21:31 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf 2023-01-25 21:34 ` Paul B Mahol 2023-01-25 22:28 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-25 22:48 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf 2023-01-25 23:25 ` Marton Balint 2023-01-26 22:16 ` Michael Niedermayer 2023-01-26 22:49 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf 2023-01-26 23:19 ` Michael Niedermayer 2023-01-26 23:21 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf 2023-01-27 18:42 ` James Almer 2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 26/31] avcodec/avcodec: Remove AV_CODEC_FLAG2_DROP_FRAME_TIMECODE Andreas Rheinhardt [not found] ` <20230127140600.2831578-1-andreas.rheinhardt@outlook.com> 2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 27/31] avformat/avformat: Remove AVOutputFormat.data_codec Andreas Rheinhardt 2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 28/31] avformat/avformat: Move codecpar up in AVStream Andreas Rheinhardt 2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 29/31] avcodec: Make avcodec_decode_subtitle2 accept a const AVPacket* Andreas Rheinhardt 2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 30/31] avformat/demux: Avoid stack packet when decoding frame Andreas Rheinhardt 2023-01-27 14:06 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 31/31] avformat/avformat: Move AVOutputFormat internals out of public header Andreas Rheinhardt 2023-01-28 13:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 32/32] avutil/{color_utils, csp}: merge color_utils into csp and expose API Leo Izen 2023-01-29 11:08 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-01-30 16:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] " Leo Izen 2023-01-30 17:08 ` Zhao Zhili 2023-01-30 17:12 ` Paul B Mahol 2023-01-30 18:22 ` Leo Izen 2023-01-31 2:20 ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)" 2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 0/6] Fix HDR vivid support Zhao Zhili 2023-02-02 8:00 ` Lance Wang [not found] ` <20230202070208.1962086-1-quinkblack@foxmail.com> 2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 1/6] libavutil/hdr_dynamic_vivid_metadata: fix AVHDRVividColorToneMappingParams Zhao Zhili 2023-02-02 8:16 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-02-02 8:52 ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)" 2023-02-03 14:28 ` Anton Khirnov 2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 2/6] libavcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix start code check Zhao Zhili 2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 3/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix base_param_Delta Zhao Zhili 2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 4/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix base_enable_flag control Zhao Zhili 2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 5/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: reindent after the previous commit Zhao Zhili 2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 6/6] fftools/ffprobe: fix print_dynamic_hdr_vivid Zhao Zhili 2023-01-29 10:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] lavu/fifo: remove FF_API_FIFO_PEEK2 Anton Khirnov 2023-01-29 10:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/3] lavu/fifo: uninline deprecated av_fifo_peek2() Anton Khirnov 2023-01-29 16:11 ` Andreas Rheinhardt 2023-01-29 10:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/3] lavu/fifo: mark all AVFifoBuffer members as deprecated Anton Khirnov
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