From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] riscv: add CPU flags for the RISC-V Vector extension
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2022 11:27:08 +0300
Message-ID: <8986474.CDJkKcVGEf@basile.remlab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <NB6DSv1--3-2@lynne.ee>
Le sunnuntaina 4. syyskuuta 2022, 9.39.36 EEST Lynne a écrit :
> In particular, doing the tail, which consists of 2 equal length transforms.
> On AVX we interleave the coefficients from 2x4pt transforms during
> lookups since we can do them simultaneously and save on
> shuffles. Doing them individually wouldn't be as efficient.
I'm not going to boldy state that one size fits all, because I am pretty sure
that it would come back to bite me in soft and sensitive tissue. But unlike
SIMD extensions, RISC-V V and ARM SVE favour the use of offsets and masks to
deal with misaligned edges, so I'm not sure how useful the insights from AVX
are.
> > And besides, how do you want to get the value if not with assembler? This
> > is currently not found in ELF HWCAP and probably never will be.
> Sucks, knowing how wide the units are is as important as
> knowing how much L1 cache you have for me.
I understand that for some multidimensional calculations, you need to make
special cases. The obvious case would be if the vector is too short to fit a
column or row of elements whilst performing a transposition.
But even then, and even if we end up later on with, say, an arch_prctl() call
to find the vector size, I don't think exposing it in CPU flags would be a good
idea. VSETVL & VSETIVL also account for the element size and the vector group
multiplier, so it seems better to use either of them than to reimplement the
same logic in C based on the raw vector bit length.
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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-03 19:01 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCHv1 0/3] Float DSP for RISC-V Vector extension - part I Rémi Denis-Courmont
2022-09-03 19:01 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] riscv: add CPU flags for the RISC-V Vector extension remi
2022-09-03 19:05 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2022-09-03 19:20 ` Lynne
2022-09-03 19:59 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2022-09-03 21:38 ` Lynne
2022-09-04 5:41 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2022-09-04 6:39 ` Lynne
2022-09-04 8:27 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
2022-09-03 19:01 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/3] riscv: initial common header for assembler macros remi
2022-09-03 19:01 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/3] riscv: add float vector-scalar multiplication remi
2022-09-03 19:11 ` Lynne
2022-09-03 19:34 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2022-09-03 19:48 ` Lynne
2022-09-03 20:01 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
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