Re: [FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust

["Tomas Härdin" <git@haerdin.se>]

fre 2025-02-21 klockan 20:10 +0000 skrev Soft Works:
> 
> 
> From: Kieran Kunhya <kieran618@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Freitag, 21. Februar 2025 20:27
> To: Soft Works <softworkz@hotmail.com>
> Cc: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
> <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust
> 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025, 15:02 Soft Works,
> <softworkz@hotmail.com<mailto:softworkz@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ffmpeg-devel
> > <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org<mailto:ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg
> > .org>> On Behalf Of
> > Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
> > Sent: Freitag, 21. Februar 2025 15:53
> > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> > devel@ffmpeg.org<mailto:devel@ffmpeg.org>>
> > Cc: Kieran Kunhya
> > <kieran618@googlemail.com<mailto:kieran618@googlemail.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust
> > 
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2025, 14:30 Soft Works, <softworkz-at-
> > hotmail.com@ffmpeg.org<mailto:hotmail.com@ffmpeg.org>>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ffmpeg-devel
> > > > <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org<mailto:ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ff
> > > > mpeg.org>> On Behalf Of
> > > > Michael Niedermayer
> > > > Sent: Freitag, 21. Februar 2025 14:22
> > > > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> > > > devel@ffmpeg.org<mailto:devel@ffmpeg.org>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] I've written a filter in Rust
> > > > 
> > > > Hi
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 10:01:56AM +0100, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > > > > tor 2025-02-20 klockan 23:49 +0100 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 02:06:47PM +0100, Leandro Santiago
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > [insert meme here]
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > I also recorded a video showing the filter in action [7].
> > > > > > [...
> > > > > > > [7] https://youtu.be/U_y4-NnaINg
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > cool, it doesnt detect everyone though
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > also i think this shows how useful a plugin framework would
> > > > > > be for
> > > > > > ffmpeg
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > with plugins everyone could use,test and contribute to this
> > > > > > today.
> > > > > > without plugins, this needs to be merged in ffmpeg git
> > > > > > master. (which
> > > > > > will take some time i suspect)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have we not gone over and rejected plugins many times? I
> > > > > recall points
> > > > 
> > > > no
> > > > there was no formal and no public informal vote that i
> > > > remember.
> > > > 
> > > > ive raised the issue with plugins many times. Because it would
> > > > allow people and myself to contribute more complex features and
> > > > end the stagnation of FFmpeg.
> > > 
> > > Yup, that's exactly one of the reasons why other projects like
> > > GStreamer
> > > have gained that much popularity. It might not have happened when
> > > ffmpeg would have been more open and extensible in the first
> > > place.
> > > 
> > 
> > It's quite the opposite. Gstreamer is successful in its vertical
> > because it
> > allows easy inclusion of vendor binary blobs. This is not "open and
> > extensible".
> 
> Open means it's extensible for everybody, including vendors. I fail
> to see
> what's bad about it. Do we have a fight against everything
> commercial?
> 
> What are you afraid of to happen?

I think Kieran already expressed quite well the issue:

1) it encourages proprietary blobs
2) it creates pressure on us to maintain compatibility with said blobs

/Tomas
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