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From: "Tomas Härdin" <git@haerdin.se>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [WIP] False positives on Coverity
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 10:06:18 +0200
Message-ID: <77408fbf565ed4f178e32fbd984e0087904c0a47.camel@haerdin.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70CB0DD5-F4CE-4863-8365-9E7BF52D6A2C@remlab.net>

tis 2024-05-14 klockan 14:28 +0300 skrev Rémi Denis-Courmont:
> 
> 
> Le 14 mai 2024 10:37:20 GMT+03:00, "Tomas Härdin" <git@haerdin.se> a
> écrit :
> > Formal methods would be better than the heuristics coverity uses.
> 
> That sounds like wishful thinking, or at least a distant pipe dream.
> Lets stick to what is possible and realistic today, please.

WP is a pipe dream yes, but Eva is quite near being practical. We can
add test entrypoints protected by #defines for various modules in the
codebase. lavu comes to mind. I might submit a patchset for this as a
conversation starter.

> And I don't think that it would be reasonable to require that every
> FFmpeg developer be able to update the hypothetical formal proofs
> whenever they make a code change.

I think this entirely depends. Much like we don't allow breaking FATE,
there is no reason to allow breaking low-level stuff covered by ACSL
contracts. For example if the AVRational functions are given a valid
rational (positive den), they should return a valid rational as well.

I should add that Eva can produce false positives as well. This can be
avoided to some extent by giving it less gas when developing and more
in FATE.

/Tomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-15  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-13 23:38 Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-14  7:37 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-05-14 11:28   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-15  8:06     ` Tomas Härdin [this message]
2024-06-08 16:01 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-08 19:49   ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-08 22:49     ` Timo Rothenpieler
2024-06-09 13:10       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-09 22:04         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-10 12:37           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-10 12:40             ` Timo Rothenpieler
2024-06-10 12:45               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-11 15:46                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-09 22:02       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-11 23:55 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-12 23:20   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-25 14:41     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-08-12 17:40       ` Michael Niedermayer

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