Am Dienstag, 1. Juli 2025, 12:58:23 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Alexander Strasser via ffmpeg-devel: > Hi all, > > I do not like the branding of the LLMs as AI, thus I will for now > continue to call it "AI" in quotes. I'm open for better terms. > > It was just yesterday brought up on IRC in #ffmpeg-devel that there > was at least one, marked attempt to include "AI" generated code[1]. > > At least I would say that this particular patch series was rejected, > but there were was no explicit discussion and clear statement about > "AI" generated content; especially code. > > Thus I want this thread to start a discussion, that eventually leads > to a policy about submitting and integrating "AI" generated content. > > Leaving all ethical issues aside for a moment I still see 2 very big > problems with AI generated code: > > * looks generally plausible but is often subtly wrong > * leading to more work, regressions and costs > * which often lands on a different group of people (other > projects, reviewers, bug finders, bug fixers, etc.) > * which are sometimes delayed for quite some time increasing > the costs of fixing them > * license/copyright violations > * this might be sometimes a non-issue with small changes > * but especially for complete components the risk seems high > > There is a lot more to the topic and I probably forgot to bring up > many more important aspects and details. Please feel free to bring > more things up in the discussion! > > There was a preparation in the musl project to put up a policy[2], > it has not yet been finalized and realized as far as I understand. Just to link it here. Remembers me on the Gentoo Linux discussion: https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/9007c921a8a57655ecb2027eb4be4bff02673af4.camel@zougloub.eu/T/#t https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy Best, Gerion > > It also brings up the point, that it is not really related to > recent "AI" tech, but more to the origin of work and its handling. > Unfortunately "AI" made problems with this a lot more common. > > > Best regards, > Alexander > > 1. https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2025-April/342146.html > 2. https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2024/10/19/3 >