[FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi all

I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
and 9.0 in May

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[James Almer via ffmpeg-devel]

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On 11/26/2025 7:44 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
> and 9.0 in May

Is 8.1 meant to be LTS? I forgot how the plan was in regards to that. I 
recall 5.1 and 7.1 are considered LTS (Probably because of Debian).
Ubuntu will probably feature freeze 26.04, their LTS, around February. 
It would be best if we align with them (They will most likely use either 
8.0 or 8.1 if done in time, and I'd prefer them using the latter).


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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi James

On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 08:01:11PM -0300, James Almer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 11/26/2025 7:44 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
> > and 9.0 in May
> 
> Is 8.1 meant to be LTS?

yes, iam kind of trying to maintain the last of each major version
but sometimes distros ship others and i maintain these then too


> I forgot how the plan was in regards to that.

same here, i cant remember either.
I do need an assistent who enjoys keeping track of these things and reminding me


> I
> recall 5.1 and 7.1 are considered LTS (Probably because of Debian).
> Ubuntu will probably feature freeze 26.04, their LTS, around February. It
> would be best if we align with them (They will most likely use either 8.0 or
> 8.1 if done in time, and I'd prefer them using the latter).

Do you know till when we need to make 8.1 then so its in ubuntu LTS ?

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[James Almer via ffmpeg-devel]

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On 11/26/2025 10:57 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi James
> 
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 08:01:11PM -0300, James Almer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>> On 11/26/2025 7:44 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
>>> and 9.0 in May
>>
>> Is 8.1 meant to be LTS?
> 
> yes, iam kind of trying to maintain the last of each major version
> but sometimes distros ship others and i maintain these then too
> 
> 
>> I forgot how the plan was in regards to that.
> 
> same here, i cant remember either.
> I do need an assistent who enjoys keeping track of these things and reminding me
> 
> 
>> I
>> recall 5.1 and 7.1 are considered LTS (Probably because of Debian).
>> Ubuntu will probably feature freeze 26.04, their LTS, around February. It
>> would be best if we align with them (They will most likely use either 8.0 or
>> 8.1 if done in time, and I'd prefer them using the latter).
> 
> Do you know till when we need to make 8.1 then so its in ubuntu LTS ?

I don't know when feature freeze is for Ubuntu, but i assume it will be 
January or February. We would need to make 8.1 before that happens to 
give their maintainer time to actually pull the tarball and build an 
initial package for it.

Someone more familiar with Canonical should chime in.


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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Lynne via ffmpeg-devel]

On 26/11/2025 23:44, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
> and 9.0 in May

I'd like 8.1 in late December, and an 8.2 in late March.
There's been a lot of Vulkan work, and I'd like people to start using 
it/testing it sooner rather than later.
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi Lynne

On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 03:17:34AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 26/11/2025 23:44, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
> > and 9.0 in May
> 
> I'd like 8.1 in late December, and an 8.2 in late March.

STF will possibly fund some of the work and that will not happen in december

But if people can convince google to directly fund my security work,
then ill try doing a 8.1 in december/ january.


> There's been a lot of Vulkan work, and I'd like people to start using
> it/testing it sooner rather than later.

I agree theres always cool stuff

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Lynne via ffmpeg-devel]

On 27/11/2025 04:01, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi Lynne
> 
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 03:17:34AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>> On 26/11/2025 23:44, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
>>> and 9.0 in May
>>
>> I'd like 8.1 in late December, and an 8.2 in late March.
> 
> STF will possibly fund some of the work and that will not happen in december

I don't get it? How is that related to a release?
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi Lynne

On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 27/11/2025 04:01, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > Hi Lynne
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 03:17:34AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > On 26/11/2025 23:44, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > Hi all
> > > > 
> > > > I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
> > > > and 9.0 in May
> > > 
> > > I'd like 8.1 in late December, and an 8.2 in late March.
> > 
> > STF will possibly fund some of the work and that will not happen in december
> 
> I don't get it? How is that related to a release?

STF will possibly fund fixing fuzzer/security issues for a few months
in 2026. So it makes sense to make releases when these issues are fewest

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Lynne via ffmpeg-devel]

On 28/11/2025 02:19, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi Lynne
> 
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>> On 27/11/2025 04:01, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> Hi Lynne
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 03:17:34AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>>> On 26/11/2025 23:44, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
>>>>> and 9.0 in May
>>>>
>>>> I'd like 8.1 in late December, and an 8.2 in late March.
>>>
>>> STF will possibly fund some of the work and that will not happen in december
>>
>> I don't get it? How is that related to a release?
> 
> STF will possibly fund fixing fuzzer/security issues for a few months
> in 2026. So it makes sense to make releases when these issues are fewest
We can simply release a snapshot of what we have, it's just a tag after all.
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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Hi Lynne

On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 08:58:02AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 28/11/2025 02:19, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > Hi Lynne
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > On 27/11/2025 04:01, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > Hi Lynne
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 03:17:34AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > > On 26/11/2025 23:44, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
> > > > > > and 9.0 in May
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'd like 8.1 in late December, and an 8.2 in late March.
> > > > 
> > > > STF will possibly fund some of the work and that will not happen in december
> > > 
> > > I don't get it? How is that related to a release?
> > 
> > STF will possibly fund fixing fuzzer/security issues for a few months
> > in 2026. So it makes sense to make releases when these issues are fewest

> We can simply release a snapshot of what we have, it's just a tag after all.

we already have snapshots, anyone who wants to treat them as releases, can.
https://www.ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-snapshot.tar.bz2

thx

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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Lynne via ffmpeg-devel]

On 01/12/2025 13:42, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi Lynne
> 
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 08:58:02AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>> On 28/11/2025 02:19, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> Hi Lynne
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>>> On 27/11/2025 04:01, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>>>> Hi Lynne
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 03:17:34AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/11/2025 23:44, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
>>>>>>> and 9.0 in May
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like 8.1 in late December, and an 8.2 in late March.
>>>>>
>>>>> STF will possibly fund some of the work and that will not happen in december
>>>>
>>>> I don't get it? How is that related to a release?
>>>
>>> STF will possibly fund fixing fuzzer/security issues for a few months
>>> in 2026. So it makes sense to make releases when these issues are fewest
> 
>> We can simply release a snapshot of what we have, it's just a tag after all.
> 
> we already have snapshots, anyone who wants to treat them as releases, can.
> https://www.ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-snapshot.tar.bz2

Distributions don't.
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[FFmpeg-devel] Re: FFmpeg 8.1 and 9.0

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel]

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On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 01:57:50PM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On 01/12/2025 13:42, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > Hi Lynne
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 08:58:02AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > On 28/11/2025 02:19, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > Hi Lynne
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > > On 27/11/2025 04:01, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Lynne
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2025 at 03:17:34AM +0100, Lynne via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > > > > On 26/11/2025 23:44, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I plan to branch and make 8.1 in February
> > > > > > > > and 9.0 in May
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'd like 8.1 in late December, and an 8.2 in late March.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > STF will possibly fund some of the work and that will not happen in december
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't get it? How is that related to a release?
> > > > 
> > > > STF will possibly fund fixing fuzzer/security issues for a few months
> > > > in 2026. So it makes sense to make releases when these issues are fewest
> > 
> > > We can simply release a snapshot of what we have, it's just a tag after all.
> > 
> > we already have snapshots, anyone who wants to treat them as releases, can.
> > https://www.ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-snapshot.tar.bz2
> 
> Distributions don't.

Distributions want maintained releases, not snapshots with a tag

thx

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