From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D14642C0C for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2833B68AC75; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:41:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail-ua1-f41.google.com (mail-ua1-f41.google.com [209.85.222.41]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 684B7689F59 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:41:22 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail-ua1-f41.google.com with SMTP id x33so5864046uad.12 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:41:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject:content-language:to :references:from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F2FQkGc3QJLxRNJOUbEtQxQ2ln8Uc5KauLGBxyGZJlw=; b=kr5zKOQTJBcAC7VOQTYMWri6aCI0HsjqSX6PwB1hZjMMn7VEPjDXM6FL5uGSaKQY3O bnFqA4LcpH8SynuKzAvo9kBjNoNwgb4UeCbXkvFdWgiOMAz7OvtyenJPgsCFZ3hAHsYO tl9gxmfMxHTSpjZqjBvEMs9fi5HeE2VHN+upj8lmiuq6tyFTMry23PJg6yGpk0HcqvF2 vYu78tanAB4Gerry6V+ACkyh8n/f4iz2WF+8VWiebkuzYVBy9PxTW5BSx+3S2DQuGb6h RKsxXzjrIJY+xtC5KJ4HkfQXlPeobg5XKZvOypk74DBkGvRgkIMTvsvKk52VmribuQBO iB4Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F2FQkGc3QJLxRNJOUbEtQxQ2ln8Uc5KauLGBxyGZJlw=; b=XRypZPjxxachEsvR0zzC2mUX8by8Z9nC/EtbEY3QG/es9OvEVRO6KQQ1RGZhWiomCo YE2t2ODT/xbnGLP9Zn6pJyWy63Y1doGMc4YXSvhGKK3vqVhCwWN+W2qhc1WdagKKDhHj /wojX3UHCK0DG140MbGv7TIyMUYdv9jSlgcVE4jFqj1UBnA5iRZsWT3g5ybASlzVXcnv 18VIwccsF64iUg+Y0DGqTCtbI7YVg++nniwiPNq66/1U2ObjxYTK+z8gl53XJbepaMgF EwAqj73M96XXhx3iPKcZmY0uzgJhpZY2Xy/VGvYS6k3DVqItCGxOmIHmDGQn7YB7GmqV kKKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531QbG5n207yWgwwVveE+j9Lc9qH2Uvzgf69L3z+oQLqQwp/BrvA 8SWsauLJMaSe9IKdOzh1WNujYzYvl0o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyvIMF/dEBtAW7xlJn0cZ2VWBxeBbgz60iHMZa8kWweouWiegMsePsCIG2MgwNdPOmGTiYBPw== X-Received: by 2002:ab0:13c3:: with SMTP id n3mr318910uae.39.1642005680574; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.13] ([186.136.131.95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j76sm163999vke.27.2022.01.12.08.41.19 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:41:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d0d367d-c794-682f-febe-d167e828b316@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 13:41:18 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0 Content-Language: en-US To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org References: <20220108163012.GF2829255@pb2> <20220112163051.GJ2829255@pb2> From: James Almer In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] 5.0 blocking issues X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On 1/12/2022 1:36 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > Michael Niedermayer (12022-01-12): >> Iam really bad at keeping track of everything everyone asks to be >> included and then notice when it was included fully with nothing >> missing and no amendmends. >> Maybe we could put a RELEASE_BLOCKER file in release branches in the future >> and everyone can list in it what needs to be done before the release >> and when something is done the person pushing would also remove that >> line from the file. > > Maybe you could stop bothering about things you are not good at and that > bore you. > > If releases need to be made, then let somebody step in for the role of > release manager. And if nobody steps in, let us not make releases. > > After all, WE do not need to make releases: it is the other projects who > need us to make releases. > > Regards, I think it should be more like, as release manager, he decides when to cut a branch and when to tag a release within that branch, and in either case giving a warning with some time in advance. Saying "Anything else?" then waiting for people and constantly postponing tagging is not going to work. And it's not the first time this happens. Right now the branch is made and and the feature set frozen, and anything that could be backported can wait until 5.0.1. Cutting the branch is when interested parties should spoke and be hasty as that means a feature freeze. But right now, the release can and should be made whenever Michael wants to. _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".