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no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-0; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-1; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-2; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-3; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 3.3.10 X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: [RFC] Sponsors & Funding List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Archived-At: Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Gyan Doshi via ffmpeg-devel Cc: Gyan Doshi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On 2025-09-12 03:56 am, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote: > Hi Gyan > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 01:41:24PM +0530, Gyan Doshi via ffmpeg-devel wrote: >> >> On 2025-09-11 02:22 am, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote: >>> For this subject to make any sense, we need to have the entities >>> (GA, the community, myself, stefano) disagree. >>> >>> I have to point out, that stefano and myself just pass the community >>> decissions to SPI, so we will not disagree with the community. >>> >>> But let us for sake of this rabbit hole, assume, we all disagree. >>> >>> I say: green >>> Stefano says: red >>> The community says: blue with 90% majority >>> The GA says: black with 90% majority >>> >>> So what will SPI do ? >>> IMHO, SPI will see me and stefano disagree and consequently will check the >>> public communication channels and see that the community in public and >>> in a verifyable way has choosen: blue >> What is the 'community' in this scenario? Who are the members (and who >> decides), what is the voting mechanism, who is/are the adjudicators? > Thats another deep rabbit hole ... > > Also, its not one scenario. > > Some examples: > Has there been a governance attack? > If yes, whatever rules we have had, would have failed. > > Or where peoples systems compromised to produce these disagreements. > If so, the vote needs to be redone, after things are cleaned up. > > Or has the community split in N groups fundamentally disagreeing? > In this case really we would need to talk and bring people back together. > > Or is the disagreement maybe about a meaningless bikeshed question, in > which case maybe we can simply do without an awnser. > > So maybe the question, What is the 'community' in such a extreem case is often > not the right question. > But technically, if this question must be awnsered, SPI has to decide in such > an extreem case. Let's put aside the extreme cases for now. What is the concrete definition of the community in normal cases? Regards, Gyan _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list -- ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org To unsubscribe send an email to ffmpeg-devel-leave@ffmpeg.org