From: James Almer <jamrial@gmail.com>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] lavu/bswap: remove some inline assembler
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 13:08:04 -0300
Message-ID: <4833017d-8fdf-4598-85b0-3fcb43a45ce4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240611155721.GL2821752@pb2>
On 6/11/2024 12:57 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 12:38:37PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
>> On 6/11/2024 10:15 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 07, 2024 at 09:19:46PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>>>> C code or compiler built-ins are preferable over inline assembler for
>>>> byte-swaps as it allows for better optimisations (e.g. instruction
>>>> scheduling) which would otherwise be impossible.
>>>>
>>>> As with f64c2e710fa1a7b59753224e717f57c48462076f for x86 and Arm,
>>>> this removes the inline assembler on GCC (and Clang) since we now
>>>> require recent enough compiler versions (this indeed seems to work on
>>>> AArch64).
>>>> ---
>>>> libavutil/aarch64/bswap.h | 56 ---------------------------------------
>>>> libavutil/avr32/bswap.h | 44 ------------------------------
>>>> libavutil/bswap.h | 8 +-----
>>>> libavutil/sh4/bswap.h | 48 ---------------------------------
>>>
>>> As you are writing that this preferrable for better optimisations
>>> Please provide benchmarks (for sh4, avr32)
>>
>> This is a ridiculous request, considering nobody has such hardware at all.
>
> Then I think its a ridiculous claim that this optimizes the code
>
> I mean, at some point there was hardware and these optimisations did improve
> speed.
>
> This patch is not removing the code because its a rare (or dead) platform, it removes
> it with the claim that this would "allows for better optimisations"
> Iam sorry but i do not see why asking for the claim in the commit message
> to be backed up with facts being ridiculous
> The claim in the commit message may be ridiculous
Compilers have come a long way since 20 years ago when this code was added.
See https://godbolt.org/z/jPose4rj3, where new GCC generates the same
code for sh4. And no inline assembly means instruction scheduling will
take these functions into account.
>
> thx
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-11 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-07 18:19 Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-07 18:19 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] sh4: remove architecture Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-07 21:18 ` Sean McGovern
2024-06-13 16:35 ` Sean McGovern
2024-06-07 21:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] lavu/bswap: remove some inline assembler Sean McGovern
2024-06-11 13:15 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 15:28 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 16:04 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 16:27 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 15:38 ` James Almer
2024-06-11 15:50 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-11 16:10 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 16:24 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 17:20 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-11 15:57 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 15:59 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-11 16:08 ` James Almer [this message]
2024-06-11 16:17 ` Michael Niedermayer
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