Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg release 6.1 (SDR Plans)

["Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>]

Le torstaina 21. syyskuuta 2023, 21.56.52 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> Hi
> 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 05:33:54PM +0100, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel 
wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:21 PM Michael Niedermayer
> > 
> > <michael@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> > > OTOH If a majority of people are against the SDR code at the time of
> > > branching 6.1. Then i will make a separate release identical to 6.1 with
> > > the SDR code and of course also provide security support
> > 
> > How on earth is it acceptable that you can publish your hobby project
> > under the FFmpeg project name?
> 
> How on earth is this defamation acceptable?

Michael, that is totally out of line. You pointed out that SDR was a new hobby 
project of yours. You do not get to complain that people throw your own words 
back at you (even if, hypothetically, you regret them).

> In fact iam not even sure what you talk about.
> FFmpeg is not a propriatery licensed project

Nobody said anything about FFmpeg or your SDR code being proprietary.

> It seems to me you are trying to rally your followers against me,

This is very demeaning to those people who are perfectly capable of thinking 
for ourselves and objected to the SDR code on similar technical grounds as 
Kieran's. And it is very highly hypocritical of you to accuse Kieran of 
politicking right after your allegations of defamation, since your words could 
very well be interpreted as defamation against him.

> If you have real arguments, you can state them without these attacks

Kieran, and others, have provided technical arguments a number of times in the 
past.

> > I have been working on BIOS code recently but I haven't decided to
> > create FFBIOS and put it in the main FFmpeg repo.
> 
> because doing so would make no sense, BIOS is unrelated to FFmpeg and
> multimedia

FFmpeg as a UEFI app or bare metal "BIOS" would be more related to multimedia 
than SDR is, relatively speaking, IMO.

(FWIW, UEFI has graphical output, HID, file systems and TCP/IP. You could very 
well run the FFmpeg on it.)

> But if you do, noone would attack you like you do, we would just
> have a normal discussion about why you think this makes sense, and
> i think you dont think that makes sense so we would agree that BIOS
> doesnt belong in FFmpeg
> 
> If OTOH you would create something related, you could name it
> FFmpeg-<whatever> nothing wrong here, other people do it to, github has
> 26300 hits for FFmpeg

Like no? Other people do it is a very sorry excuse. If it doesn't relate to 
FFmpeg, it shouldn't be called FFmpeg.

It's not even just a question of morality and principles: Trademarks need to 
be defended afterall.

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