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From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] avcodec: add external dec libvvdec for H266/VVC
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 22:01:16 +0300
Message-ID: <45165298.J1MQHNdKZc@basile.remlab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0101018f974d049f-8790f032-e8d1-421f-95bd-e466334fb435-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com>

Le maanantaina 20. toukokuuta 2024, 21.39.18 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-
devel a écrit :
> The same way using FDK-AAC as a decoder works, if you want to use it as the
> *AAC decoder you have to specify the decoder with -c:a libfdk_aac before
> the input.-

AFAIK, we don't have hwaccel for audio codecs. That sentence makes zero sense.

And again, you can't expect users to select decoders manually. If vvdec is the 
default, hwaccel won't work. If vvdec is not the default, then it's dead code.

> Where is the "requiring" part coming in? I'm saying that manual decoder
> selection is an option in the ffmpeg CLI, and can be used to select an
> alternate decoder if the default one is not sufficient for some reason. 

So most people use libavcodec through higher-level frameworks or applications, 
not the CLI tool, and that is especially true for playback. If that's the 
super-niche use-case for vvdec, then I agree with Kieran that it's just bloat.

> > To the contrary, gstreamer, mpv, VLC et al. are better equipped to handle
> > this, starting with a proper plugin architecture.
> 
> 
> Better equipped to handle what?

To handle multiple implementations of decoding for a given codec, and not 
force them as installation and load-time dependencies.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-20 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-14 15:09 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] Add support for H266/VVC encoding Christian Bartnik
2024-05-14 15:09 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 1/2] avcodec: add external enc libvvenc for H266/VVC Christian Bartnik
2024-05-14 16:49   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-05-16 15:22     ` Christian
2024-05-24 13:03       ` Nuo Mi
2024-05-14 15:09 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] avcodec: add external dec libvvdec " Christian Bartnik
2024-05-14 16:28   ` Lynne via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-17 10:15     ` Christian
     [not found]     ` <66AD9495-91D5-40C7-B3FA-CFA222ED3D7E@cosmin.at>
2024-05-17 17:20       ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-17 19:14         ` Kieran Kunhya
2024-05-18 14:04         ` Nuo Mi
     [not found]           ` <592133D9-BC0A-4220-B717-66408E9F435B@cosmin.at>
2024-05-18 18:55             ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-19  5:48               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                 ` <7C02B7A4-B6C6-477F-A185-0E8D082788B2@cosmin.at>
2024-05-20 16:24                   ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
     [not found]                 ` <8FDC7AD3-E2E8-4E40-9DAE-63C99AE64C49@cosmin.at>
2024-05-20 16:33                   ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-20 18:03                     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                       ` <6BF4ADA7-76D0-48C6-9F48-588766A72F85@cosmin.at>
2024-05-20 18:39                         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-20 19:01                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <8C6DE791-418E-4464-82E4-9A6D50E4E4D0@cosmin.at>
2024-05-20 19:33                               ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-20 20:05                                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                                   ` <2E0614A4-8D72-4100-BE9C-D91B28F8EDB6@cosmin.at>
2024-05-20 20:38                                     ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel

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