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[2001:470:27:11::2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 38308e7fff4ca-34f163f4c52sm35470511fa.22.2025.09.16.12.54.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 16 Sep 2025 12:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 22:54:19 +0300 (EEST) To: Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel In-Reply-To: <20250916184956.GS29660@pb2> Message-ID: <442e6eb-5688-eb5d-c2ea-2130674cfa83@martin.st> References: <20250916084900.GR29660@pb2> <3d93b791-40b1-7bff-d55e-bb6b479485c6@martin.st> <20250916184956.GS29660@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID-Hash: BRQV5LRTPXPHJIKLVAEAYLH5V5RP6ZY7 X-Message-ID-Hash: BRQV5LRTPXPHJIKLVAEAYLH5V5RP6ZY7 X-MailFrom: SRS0=hqof=33=martin.st=martin@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-0; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-1; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-2; header-match-ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org-3; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 3.3.10 X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] Re: [POLL] [VOTE] code.ffmpeg.org vs. ML List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Archived-At: Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: =?utf-8?q?Martin_Storsj=C3=B6_via_ffmpeg-devel?= Cc: Michael Niedermayer , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Martin_Storsj=F6?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Tue, 16 Sep 2025, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 02:12:20PM +0300, Martin Storsj=F6 via ffmpeg-dev= el wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Sep 2025, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> 2 months ago we voted on testing Forgejo vs Gitlab, we picked and tested >>> Forgejo. And as said in that vote, (and surprisingly, i have not forgot= ten it) >>> heres the "after testing" discussion and vote >>> >>> do we want to keep Forgejo or switch back to the ML workflow >>> (or something else) >>> >>> F. keep Forgejo as primary forge for patch/git workflow >>> M. switch back to the ML for patch/git workflow >>> >>> all GA members can vote, by publically replying here with a >>> "F." / "Forgejo" vs "M." / "ML" >> > >> Any vote on anything that can be even potentially contentious should be = made >> with closed voting, not requiring everybody to publicly state their >> preference. > > You mean a "secret ballot" > > First, id like to say thanks, for you commenting here, even if we dont > agree. I think such debate is a good thing as long as its friendly > and you always have been friendly! > > my current oppinion on the subject: > > The main goal of a secret ballot is to protect the citizen so she can del= egate > her power to a "office holder" freely No, that is not the point at all. The point is having one's voice and vote count, without needing to=20 disclose it publicly. On potentially contentious matters, people eligible=20 to vote may wish to do so, without having to publicly state their=20 preference attached to their name. Or like R=E9mi explained it in=20 https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2025-August/347939.html: > A public ballot, also known as plebiscite, is by nature a performative=20 > exercise. >=20 > A secret ballot allows people to express their opinion based purely on=20 > the technical and moral merits without the fear of a bad perception and=20 > self-censorship. // Martin _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list -- ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org To unsubscribe send an email to ffmpeg-devel-leave@ffmpeg.org