[FFmpeg-devel] Re: [POLL] [VOTE] code.ffmpeg.org vs. ML

["Martin Storsjö via ffmpeg-devel" <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>]

On Tue, 16 Sep 2025, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 02:12:20PM +0300, Martin Storsjö via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2025, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> 2 months ago we voted on testing Forgejo vs Gitlab, we picked and tested
>>> Forgejo. And as said in that vote, (and surprisingly, i have not forgotten it)
>>> heres the "after testing" discussion and vote
>>>
>>> do we want to keep Forgejo or switch back to the ML workflow
>>> (or something else)
>>>
>>> F. keep Forgejo as primary forge for patch/git workflow
>>> M. switch back to the ML for patch/git workflow
>>>
>>> all GA members can vote, by publically replying here with a
>>> "F." / "Forgejo" vs "M." / "ML"
>>
>
>> Any vote on anything that can be even potentially contentious should be made
>> with closed voting, not requiring everybody to publicly state their
>> preference.
>
> You mean a "secret ballot"
>
> First, id like to say thanks, for you commenting here, even if we dont
> agree. I think such debate is a good thing as long as its friendly
> and you always have been friendly!
>
> my current oppinion on the subject:
>
> The main goal of a secret ballot is to protect the citizen so she can delegate
> her power to a "office holder" freely

No, that is not the point at all.

The point is having one's voice and vote count, without needing to 
disclose it publicly. On potentially contentious matters, people eligible 
to vote may wish to do so, without having to publicly state their 
preference attached to their name.

Or like Rémi explained it in 
https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2025-August/347939.html:

> A public ballot, also known as plebiscite, is by nature a performative 
> exercise.
> 
> A secret ballot allows people to express their opinion based purely on 
> the technical and moral merits without the fear of a bad perception and 
> self-censorship.

// Martin
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