From: Timothée <timothee.informatique@regaud-chapuy.fr>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [FEATURE PROPOSAL] Extracting codec-level data to binary files
Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 11:33:40 +0200
Message-ID: <40377d44-4323-4427-9455-076c983cceda@mail.infomaniak.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250523005716.GV29660@pb2>
On 2025-05-23T02:57:36.000+02:00, Michael Niedermayer
<michael@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 02:45:59AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>
>> Hi Ronald On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 07:59:06AM -0400, Ronald S.
>> Bultje wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 9:34 AM Timothée <
>>> timothee.informatique@regaud-chapuy.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, I am interested in expanding ffmpeg's capabilities to
>>>> extract low-level data from video codecs. Specifically, I'd
>>>> like to implement functionality that would allow exporting
>>>> frame data, macroblock information, quantization tables, and
>>>> similar codec-specific elements to binary files for further
>>>> analysis. After searching through the documentation and
>>>> existing features, I haven't found similar functionality,
>>>> though I may have missed something. Has this been implemented
>>>> before, or are there related features I should examine?
>>>
>>> Some older codecs implement minor variants for this, e.g. grep
>>> for AV_FRAME_DATA_MOTION_VECTORS, which attaches a frame's
>>> motion vectors to the picture data. I believe there's an example
>>> app and possibly a filter to overlay MVs on top of the video
>>> frame based on this concept. You could extend this to cover
>>> other (macro)block info. There used to be a variant of this for
>>> quant-tables also but I can't find it, maybe it was removed.
>>
>> For motion vectors: ./ffplay -flags2 +export_mvs -i
>> matrixbench_mpeg2.mpg -vf codecview=mv=pf+bf+bb For macroblock
>> segmentation and type vissualization + also motion vectors:
>> ffplay-3.4.13 -debug vis_mb_type matrixbench_mpeg2.mpg -vf
>> codecview=mv=pf+bf+bb For QP vissualization + also motion vectors:
>> ffplay-3.4.13 -debug vis_qp matrixbench_mpeg2.mpg -vf
>> codecview=mv=pf+bf+bb For qp values dumped on the console ./ffplay
>> -debug qp -i matrixbench_mpeg2.mpg
>
> And this can easily be extended to other codecs, ATM it should work
> with all 16x16 MB based codecs like
> msmpeg4*/wmv*/mpeg1/2/4/h263/h264 mbtype and qp vissualization need
> codecview to be extended or versions around 3.4 which implemented it
> differently Implementing vissualization as done currently with
> sidedata and codecview is simple and efficient. It also would allow
> exporting the data to json by writing a codec2json filter in place
> of codecview Also all decoders already have all this data parsed and
> available so its simpler than trying to do it in a decoder
> independant way I would thus suggest implementations of this for
> modern codecs to follow the same path as the existing code. thx
Thanks for the helpful pointers!
I will work on the codec2json filter.
Looking at the code, I see where I can access sidedata but extracting
qb table seems to fail. (in codecview.c l.233: ff_qp_table_extract()
return 0 and qp_table is empty) (I use ./ffmpeg -flags2 +export_mvs -i
input.mp4 -vf codecview=qp=1 output.mp4 -y)
Is is qp extraction not implemented yet? Or is it because I have h264
video? If it's not implemented, I'm curious why there’s already code
that appears to handle it.
Timothée
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-23 9:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-21 13:34 Timothée
2025-05-22 11:59 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-05-22 12:32 ` Ramiro Polla
2025-05-22 17:02 ` Timothée
2025-05-22 17:43 ` Ramiro Polla
2025-05-22 20:27 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-05-23 0:45 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-05-23 0:57 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-05-23 9:33 ` Timothée [this message]
2025-05-23 11:55 ` Michael Niedermayer
2025-05-26 18:09 ` Timothée
2025-05-26 18:57 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2025-06-06 19:32 ` Tomas Härdin
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