Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] movenc: Add an option for hiding fragments at the end

From: "Martin Storsjö" <martin@martin.st>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] movenc: Add an option for hiding fragments at the end
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:08:14 +0300 (EEST)
Message-ID: <384810e3-b0eb-6f32-43c1-a52ccf7157fb@martin.st> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2af5d4c6-31a4-44c1-8845-d3b11b4e6587@rothenpieler.org>

On Fri, 14 Jun 2024, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:

> On 14/06/2024 12:44, Martin Storsjö wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024, Gyan Doshi wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2024-06-14 02:18 am, Martin Storsjö wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2024, Gyan Doshi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-06-13 06:20 pm, Martin Storsjö wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd otherwise want to push this, but I'm not entirely satisfied 
>>>>>> with the option name quite yet. I'm pondering if we should call it 
>>>>>> "hybrid_fragmented" - any opinions, Dennis or Timo?
>>>>>
>>>>> How about `resilient_mode` or `recoverable`?
>>>>> I agree that the how is secondary.
>>>>
>>>> Those are good suggestions as well - but I think I prefer 
>>>> "hybrid_fragmented" still.
>>>>
>>>> In theory, I guess one could implement resilient writing in a number 
>>>> of different ways, whereas the hybrid fragmented/non-fragmented only 
>>>> is one.
>>>>
>>>> So with a couple other voices agreeing with the name 
>>>> "hybrid_fragmented", I'll post a new patch with the option in that 
>>>> form - hopefully you don't object to it.
>>>
>>> The term hybrid is not applicable here. The fragmented state is 
>>> transient during writing and contingent in the finished artifact 
>>> depending on how the writing process concluded.
>>> Hybrid implies both modes available e.g.. a hybrid vehicle can use 
>>> both types of energy sources. The artifact here will be one _or_ the 
>>> other.
>> 
>> Sure, the file itself is either or, but the process of writing will have 
>> utilized both. TBH, I don't see it as such a black-or-white thing.
>> 
>> What do the others who have chimed in on the thread think, compared to 
>> calling it "recoverable" or "resilient_mode"?
>
> I don't have a super strong opinion on it, but out of the options 
> provided, I'd prefer the hybrid_ one, since there's a good chance it'll 
> become an established term now that OBS presents it quite publicly visible.

For context, the same feature in OBS, is documented at e.g. 
https://obsproject.com/kb/hybrid-mp4.

// Martin
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