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From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] lavu/bswap: remove some inline assembler
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 19:27:19 +0300
Message-ID: <3421885.8Q9FGFJ40s@basile.remlab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240611160417.GM2821752@pb2>

Le tiistaina 11. kesäkuuta 2024, 19.04.17 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> then simply remove avr32 with that explanation (no C11 compiler, and any
> other reason)

No. Måns and my optimisation arguments stand, even if it is purely 
hypothetical in the case of AVR32 (for which there is no working compiler). It 
is a *general* argument.

Removing the AVR32 support is not the point of *this* patch, so you are asking 
me to misrepresent what the patch does and why. As for SH4, James already 
addressed that.

> but if a commit message says the code is removed because that "allows for
> better optimisations" then yes i ask for benchmarks

"Allows for better optimisations" means exactly that: enable compilers to 
*potentially* optimise better. I never claimed that it actually improved 
performance in any given particular case.

Nevertheless it will make performance worse in one and only one case: a 
defective/half-baked compiler: missing the byte-swap instruction (if it 
exists) and/or a proper scheduling model, for the target. In other words, you 
are essentially arguing that FFmpeg should be optimised for bad C compilers 
instead of good ones.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-11 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-07 18:19 Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-07 18:19 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] sh4: remove architecture Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-07 21:18   ` Sean McGovern
2024-06-13 16:35     ` Sean McGovern
2024-06-07 21:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] lavu/bswap: remove some inline assembler Sean McGovern
2024-06-11 13:15 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 15:28   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 16:04     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 16:27       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
2024-06-11 15:38   ` James Almer
2024-06-11 15:50     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-11 16:10       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 16:24         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-11 17:20         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-06-11 15:57     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-11 15:59       ` Paul B Mahol
2024-06-11 16:08       ` James Almer
2024-06-11 16:17         ` Michael Niedermayer

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