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From: epirat07@gmail.com
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:21:49 +0200
Message-ID: <3309652B-7CAC-4A70-989E-5222970A721E@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZiDd64cLjuLlbtmO@mariano>



On 18 Apr 2024, at 10:46, Stefano Sabatini wrote:

> On date Wednesday 2024-04-17 15:58:32 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> The pace of inovation in FFmpeg has been slowing down.
>> Most work is concentarted nowadays on code refactoring, and adding
>> support for new codecs and formats.
>>
>> Should we
>> * make a list of longer term goals
>> * vote on them
>> * and then together work towards implementing them
>> ?
>>
>> (The idea here is to increase the success of larger efforts
>>  than adding codecs and refactoring code)
>> It would then also not be possible for individuals to object
>> to a previously agreed goal.
>> And it would add ideas for which we can try to get funding/grants for
>>
>> (larger scale changes need consensus first that we as a whole want
>>  them before we would be able to ask for funding/grants for them)
>>
>> Some ideas and why they would help FFmpeg:
>>
> [...]
>> * client side / in browser support
>>     (expand towards webapps, webpages using ffmpeg client side in the browser)
>>     bring in more users and developers, and it will be costly for us
>>     if we let others take this area as its important and significant
>
> There are already several projects on github, the most prominent one:
> https://github.com/ffmpegwasm/ffmpeg.wasm/
>
> In general it would be useful to provide libav* bindings to other
> languages, for example:
> https://github.com/PyAV-Org/PyAV
> https://github.com/zmwangx/rust-ffmpeg
>
> Not sure these should be really moved to FFmpeg though.
>
> One option I'm currenly exploring is having a python filter enabling
> to specify a custom filter implemented in python (needed for custom
> ad-hoc logic you don't really want to implement in C since it's not
> generic enough) and to enable using python modules when effiency is
> not an issue.

Lua would probably be a better choice for this from ease of integration
and also speed PoV last I checked. IIRC Python had some rather complex
threading implications when used in a library.

But I agree having something like this in general seems nice for some
prototyping and debugging with filters as well.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-18  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-17 13:58 Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 14:22 ` Lynne
2024-04-17 14:34   ` James Almer
2024-04-17 14:50     ` Lynne
2024-04-17 15:24       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 15:22   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 15:55     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2024-04-17 18:22       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 18:31         ` Timo Rothenpieler
2024-04-18  0:22           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18  0:42             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-17 15:57     ` Frank Plowman
2024-04-17 16:24 ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-18  7:52   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-18  9:13     ` epirat07
2024-04-18 10:22       ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-18 19:50         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18 19:56           ` James Almer
2024-04-18 22:01           ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-20 21:26             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18  2:21 ` Aidan
2024-04-18  6:33   ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-18  8:19   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-18 10:10     ` Aidan
2024-04-18 20:15     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18 21:15       ` epirat07
2024-04-18 22:45         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-21 14:36           ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-18  8:46 ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-18  9:21   ` epirat07 [this message]
2024-04-18  9:32     ` Roman Arzumanyan
2024-04-23  0:20   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-23  7:47     ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-23  8:02       ` Lynne
2024-04-23  9:38         ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-18 14:02 ` Niklas Haas
2024-04-18 20:53   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-18 21:13     ` James Almer
2024-04-18 23:19       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-19  6:02         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 14:50     ` Niklas Haas
2024-04-19 15:25       ` epirat07
2024-04-19 17:35       ` Zhao Zhili
2024-04-19 18:00         ` Diederick C. Niehorster
2024-04-19 18:06           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-04-19 19:05             ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 19:45               ` James Almer
2024-04-19 19:55                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 19:48             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-04-19 21:57               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-04-19 22:28                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 22:31                   ` James Almer
2024-04-20  0:33                     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-19 23:23                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-04-20 23:05           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-25  8:03             ` Andrew Sayers
2024-04-29  6:03       ` Davy Durham
2024-04-29 16:37         ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-29 16:44           ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-29 19:04           ` Davy Durham
2024-04-29 19:25             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-04-30 19:05             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-30 23:01               ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-02 13:47                 ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 14:20                   ` Kieran Kunhya
2024-05-02 14:34                     ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 17:44                       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-02 18:38                         ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-03  5:53                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 11:28                             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-03 11:33                               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 13:54                                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-05-03 14:33                                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]                                   ` <3B289095-ED54-4590-B8C0-FF204218876E@cosmin.at>
2024-05-03 15:45                                     ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-04 19:28                                       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-04 21:25                                         ` Andrew Sayers
2024-05-04 21:51                                           ` epirat07
2024-05-05  0:59                                             ` Zhao Zhili
2024-05-02 19:42                         ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-13  6:52                         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-30  0:11           ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-04-30 18:48             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-30 19:06               ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-04-30 19:15                 ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-01  5:27                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-02 14:25                     ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 14:38                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-02 19:32                         ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 20:06                           ` epirat07
2024-05-03 13:23                             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-03  5:46                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 12:58                             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-03 13:29                               ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-03 13:48                               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 14:41                               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-03 17:30                                 ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-03 17:45                                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-04 12:48                                     ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-02 16:35                       ` Zhao Zhili
     [not found]                         ` <34D9D362-37E5-4BFF-BA5D-01918ED7C171@cosmin.at>
2024-05-02 17:17                           ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-05-04  1:11                       ` flow gg
2024-05-04 13:06                         ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-05-04 18:04                           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-04 19:09                             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-04 19:24                               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-04 19:05                         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-12 16:05                           ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-21  9:11 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-04-21 20:40   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-23 12:12     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-04-24 22:00       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-25 15:15         ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-04-27 10:24           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-27 16:39             ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-04 20:35               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-05-05  3:06                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-05-05  8:14                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-05-05  9:18                   ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-27 19:07             ` Ondřej Fiala
2024-04-22  1:12 ` James Almer
2024-04-22 11:07   ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-04-22 11:32     ` Lynne
2024-04-30 17:42       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-17 18:34         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-17 19:00           ` Nicolas George
2024-06-17 19:29             ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-17 23:03               ` Andrew Sayers
2024-06-17 19:25           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-06-17 21:02           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-06-18 10:44             ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-06-18 22:38           ` Lynne via ffmpeg-devel
2024-04-24 22:50 ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-24 23:06   ` Diederick C. Niehorster
2024-04-25  0:07   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-25 10:26     ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-27 10:53       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-27 18:01         ` Tomas Härdin
2024-04-30 18:14           ` Michael Niedermayer

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