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From: "Tomas Härdin" <git@haerdin.se>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] VDD conference invitation - Dublin 22-24 Sept 2023
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2023 21:23:35 +0200
Message-ID: <2bbc6979201dede22ce35048ac08b6542bb19cdf.camel@haerdin.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230909135356.GA8640@pb2>

lör 2023-09-09 klockan 15:53 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> On Sat, Sep 09, 2023 at 09:04:25AM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > fre 2023-09-08 klockan 15:09 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> [...]
> 
> > > AI based filters are neglegted at a time everything is shifting
> > > to neural networks and AI. 
> > 
> > Good. AI is a meme. Polynomial regression is just as good.
> 
> Theres a lot i could reply but lets pick 2 choices
> 1. FFmpeg is about data compression so lets look at compression
> ill make it easy, just a "toy" project from fabrice, beat this with
> Polynomial regression
> https://bellard.org/ts_server/ts_zip.html

I have actually had something like this in mind. Also better predictors
for intra compression.

> 2. lets just ask AI, and while we can argue about this, i REALLY like
> to see
> your Polynomial regression producing anything that resembles english
> text
> heres chat gpts reply, first attempt:

I'm not sure what that wall of text is supposed to accomplish, a Markov
chain can produce similar output. It's just mystified statistics, or
machine laundered labour. Or AI voodoo as I've heard it referred to.
See the paper "Polynomial Regression as an Alternative to Neural Nets"
by Cheng et al

The main thing is that "AI" gets grant money whereas "polynomial
regression" does not. The former is deliberately mystified, the latter
is perfectly understood.

/Tomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-09 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-17 17:42 Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-08-20 13:01 ` Tomas Härdin
2023-08-20 15:54   ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-09-08 13:09 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-08 14:53   ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-09-09 13:58     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-08 15:19   ` James Almer
2023-09-08 18:27     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-08 15:21   ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-09-09 16:24     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-09-08 15:42   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-09-09 14:31     ` Michael Niedermayer
     [not found]   ` <22ED92D8-8653-434B-8EAB-ECBA451D8E20@cosmin.at>
2023-09-08 17:39     ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-09-08 17:43       ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-09-09  7:04   ` Tomas Härdin
2023-09-09 13:53     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-09 19:23       ` Tomas Härdin [this message]
2023-09-14 18:25         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-09 14:49   ` Michael Niedermayer

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