Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization

["Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>]

Le sunnuntaina 26. tammikuuta 2025, 17.06.28 UTC+2 Michael Niedermayer a écrit 
:
> I believe discusion about ffmpeg should be public and on the mailing list
> where everyone can participate
> Also as you say "without interpersonal arguments" I see no reason
> for it not to be on the public mailing list

> The CC also had no problems banning nicolas and paul for basically
> doing nothing

I cannot speak for actions taken by the previous CC, since most of them were 
not published or even notified to complainants.

The current CC has already dealt with and resolved one case privately. 
Generally speaking, I agree that CC decision should be public. But in this 
particular case, no actions or sanctions were taken and neither involved 
parties seemed to want to go public (they are welcome to correct me).

>  (compared to this)

I don't know what "this" is and therefore how it compares.

Just in case though, I don't need to remind you that you asked "but what can 
[you] do" to stop people attacking you, and I _suggested_ that you stop doing 
a whole bunch of the things you _have_ done in the past 6 months. I even 
provided references and, since it was a sensitive discussion, explicitly 
clarified that it was a suggestion.

I tried to point out how your own behaviour is indirectly causing what you 
complain about, and how you could alleviate that.

End result? You then accused me of insulting and slandering you. To support 
that, you conveniently selectively quoted my message, stripping most 
references, to make it look like I was making unsubstantiated accusations 
against you.

That form of argumentation is misleading and lame. It is also defamatory and I 
have every moral and legal rights to hold you responsible for it.

Besides you seem to be doubling down on your defamatory accusations against my 
person:

> (...)
> And complaints about members and friends of the CC

Who are those multiple "friends" of the CC that we ignored complaints about?

I don't think that I even have friends in common with Marth, and the only two 
complaints that I have chosen to ignore so far were:
- 1x from you about one person making fun of me on the ML.
- 1x from a third person about me being attacked by a fourth person.
- 1x from myself against that same fourth person that I did not push further.

Not both of the "accused" were my friends by any measure.

There are other outstanding complaints, but they are not ignored as of yet.

> are ignored since several years.

Well, you were on the CC in the previous year, unlike Marth and I. I don't any 
better, so *IF* Anton's resignation message is to be trusted, you were partly 
responsible for that.

> Now they have become so bold to make outright false claims

What claim from whom?

FWIW, it is my honest-to-the-flying-spaghetti-monster belief that there was no 
vote to approve STF funding for libpostproc. If I recall incorrectly, or 
somehow received neither the voting material nor voting results, then I will 
gladly withdraw and present apologies for my hypothetically false claim, and 
leave it to the rest of the CC to suspend me for however long they see fit.

> And still no action, no really, the CC should do its job or the CC should be
> disolved. People asked for the new CC to be given a chance, this is the CCs
> chance. So far i see more offensive mail being posted after the CC is
> notified not less.

Sorry. JB and myself have been exceptionally after the end of the year 
celebrations, and James and Anton left for the time being blaming you, leaving 
Marth alone. I hope to make some progress within the next week and report 
before the winter vacation season.

-- 
Rémi Denis-Courmont
Villeneuve de Tapiola, ex-République finlandaise d´Uusimaa


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